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Post by xenos on Mar 2, 2019 17:39:02 GMT -7
It's hard because this draft class is supposed to be very deep at the DT position and we may have better luck getting a good one at the 28th pick than a good ROT. My heart say ROT because I want Rivers to get the oline he deserves, but my mind say DT.
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Post by xenos on Mar 2, 2019 17:42:36 GMT -7
TTs comments about Kyzir are very interesting. The LB position is evolving in the NFL. We play modern defensive football.Not against the Patriots...... Not having any quality linebackers left will do that to you. It would have been a much closer game IMO if White, Brown, and Perryman were active that day.
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Post by topcat on Mar 2, 2019 19:17:30 GMT -7
As far as Lamp goes for this year I am hoping for a clean slate. It should be an open competition in camp this year. I think the real problem last year is by the time he was healthy enough to be able to play, the offensive line was pretty settled with Schofield and Tevi on the right side. I think the coaches were afraid to make a change when they were playing well and we were making a bid for the playoffs. Unless there was an injury that forced them I can't really blame them for not making the change. Agree...remember, we did go 12-4, right? What coach is going to mess with that? Imagine all the howling there'd be on this board if Lynn suddenly yanks Schofield out and starts Lamp...then what if we lose one or more of those games? I can see it now: Someone starts up a new thread: "Lynn pulls Schofield out and we lose--is it time to fire the coach?"
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 2, 2019 21:03:22 GMT -7
As far as Lamp goes for this year I am hoping for a clean slate. It should be an open competition in camp this year. I think the real problem last year is by the time he was healthy enough to be able to play, the offensive line was pretty settled with Schofield and Tevi on the right side. I think the coaches were afraid to make a change when they were playing well and we were making a bid for the playoffs. Unless there was an injury that forced them I can't really blame them for not making the change. Agree...remember, we did go 12-4, right? What coach is going to mess with that? Imagine all the howling there'd be on this board if Lynn suddenly yanks Schofield out and starts Lamp...then what if we lose one or more of those games? I can see it now: Someone starts up a new thread: "Lynn pulls Schofield out and we lose--is it time to fire the coach?" Not having any quality DT's will get you that result as well. Bolts were beat up, no question, but they weren't anywhere near as good as their 12-4 record implies. If everyone is healthy, starters are solid, depth was/is weak.....when the injuries showed up, the weakness was exposed, or exploited, however you prefer.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 2, 2019 21:05:59 GMT -7
Agree...remember, we did go 12-4, right? What coach is going to mess with that? Imagine all the howling there'd be on this board if Lynn suddenly yanks Schofield out and starts Lamp...then what if we lose one or more of those games? I can see it now: Someone starts up a new thread: "Lynn pulls Schofield out and we lose--is it time to fire the coach?" Not having any quality DT's will get you that result as well. Bolts were beat up, no question, but they weren't anywhere near as good as their 12-4 record implies. If everyone is healthy, starters are solid, depth was/is weak.....when the injuries showed up, the weakness was exposed, or exploited, however you prefer. Yea, no coach is going to pull a poorly performing player (both OG's in this case) and replace him with a stud such as Lamp....... Talent plays......and we all saw who was playing.
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Post by ltocbolts on Mar 3, 2019 1:16:22 GMT -7
Agree...remember, we did go 12-4, right? What coach is going to mess with that? Imagine all the howling there'd be on this board if Lynn suddenly yanks Schofield out and starts Lamp...then what if we lose one or more of those games? I can see it now: Someone starts up a new thread: "Lynn pulls Schofield out and we lose--is it time to fire the coach?" Not having any quality DT's will get you that result as well. Bolts were beat up, no question, but they weren't anywhere near as good as their 12-4 record implies. If everyone is healthy, starters are solid, depth was/is weak.....when the injuries showed up, the weakness was exposed, or exploited, however you prefer. I completely disagree with this take. Our fans seem to have serious difficulty recognizing that ALL teams have weaknesses, and depth issues. In fact, the whole "depth" complaint is getting comical. Do you think other teams have so many quality LBers that they can lose 4 of them, and not see a degradation of their defense? Get real.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 3, 2019 4:12:30 GMT -7
Not having any quality DT's will get you that result as well. Bolts were beat up, no question, but they weren't anywhere near as good as their 12-4 record implies. If everyone is healthy, starters are solid, depth was/is weak.....when the injuries showed up, the weakness was exposed, or exploited, however you prefer. I completely disagree with this take. Our fans seem to have serious difficulty recognizing that ALL teams have weaknesses, and depth issues. In fact, the whole "depth" complaint is getting comical. Do you think other teams have so many quality LBers that they can lose 4 of them, and not see a degradation of their defense? Get real. You are what your record says you are. So we are 12-4. And he is incapable of getting real.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 3, 2019 8:27:53 GMT -7
Not having any quality DT's will get you that result as well. Bolts were beat up, no question, but they weren't anywhere near as good as their 12-4 record implies. If everyone is healthy, starters are solid, depth was/is weak.....when the injuries showed up, the weakness was exposed, or exploited, however you prefer. I completely disagree with this take. Our fans seem to have serious difficulty recognizing that ALL teams have weaknesses, and depth issues. In fact, the whole "depth" complaint is getting comical. Do you think other teams have so many quality LBers that they can lose 4 of them, and not see a degradation of their defense? Get real. There was an acknowledgement of the injuries, "Bolts were beat up, no doubt."........ Every roster has weaknesses, or depth issues, even the eventual Champion's roster. Having talent in the depth is as critical to winning a championship as having 'luck', or so I believe. You disagreeing with me, simply stunning.......
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 3, 2019 8:30:17 GMT -7
I completely disagree with this take. Our fans seem to have serious difficulty recognizing that ALL teams have weaknesses, and depth issues. In fact, the whole "depth" complaint is getting comical. Do you think other teams have so many quality LBers that they can lose 4 of them, and not see a degradation of their defense? Get real. You are what your record says you are. So we are 12-4. And he is incapable of getting real. You don't believe that for a second, so stop trolling......it isn't a style that befits you.
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 3, 2019 10:22:44 GMT -7
So basically we're a 12-4 team that had lucky match-ups and hit the reality wall when we played the Patriots??? Not buying it... More like still hitting the injury wall that has plagued this team for decades.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 3, 2019 11:06:13 GMT -7
So basically we're a 12-4 team that had lucky match-ups and hit the reality wall when we played the Patriots??? Not buying it... More like still hitting the injury wall that has plagued this team for decades. Objectively evaluating the recent season, seems fair to say the Bolts were a bit of an overachiever. Did they win some games, and lose some, that they should not have in most eyes, certainly. They ended 12-4, and that can't be taken out of the equation.....there is talent on the roster. To blame it all on injuries is not acknowledging the other aspects that contributed to the loss in NE. Yes, Bolts had serious injuries at that point, but they also had poor talent in their OL/DL groups, and were clearly out couched. Injuries, luck, weather, all are things that cannot be controlled. TT needs to focus on adding talent, and AL needs to learn from the games he got out coached in.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 3, 2019 11:40:40 GMT -7
Not against the Patriots...... Not having any quality linebackers left will do that to you. It would have been a much closer game IMO if White, Brown, and Perryman were active that day. happy you have joined us here.
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Post by sonorajim on Mar 3, 2019 11:48:49 GMT -7
Re: talent, Bolts were loaded at WR, RB, had a very good QB, OLT, C, OK at TE on offense. Schofield is a serviceable OT/G. Feeney was an acclaimed OG talent that disappointed. Some decent plays, too many bad ones. Tevi, rough. I give him some credit for working and improving but it wasn'r enough and he seemed to have run out of gas at season's end. We absolutely need better play from LG & RT.
On defense they had a top rush end duo, stunning rookie talent at SS, very good DBs, OK DTs. It was a legit 12-4 team based on the talent & coaching that won 12 games. They were short at LB the last few games, could have used a quality FS basically all year.
Getting talent is always good. My FA, draft acquisitions would include MLB, FS, OG/T, DT. #28 goes to BPA.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 3, 2019 11:55:42 GMT -7
Re: talent, Bolts were loaded at WR, RB, had a very good QB, OLT, C, OK at TE on offense. Schofield is a serviceable OT/G. Feeney was an acclaimed OG talent that disappointed. Some decent plays, too many bad ones. Tevi, rough. I give him some credit for working and improving but it wasn'r enough and he seemed to have run out of gas at season's end. We absolutely need better play from LG & RT. On defense they had a top rush end duo, stunning rookie talent at SS, very good DBs, OK DTs. It was a legit 12-4 team based on the talent & coaching that won 12 games. They were short at LB the last few games, could have used a quality FS basically all year. Getting talent is always good. My FA, draft acquisitions would include MLB, FS, OG/T, DT. #28 goes to BPA. Fair evaluation...... As far as 28th goes, see my new mock in the draft section. Only thing I did not address is Safety, and hoping that comes via FA.
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Post by ltocbolts on Mar 3, 2019 12:53:30 GMT -7
I completely disagree with this take. Our fans seem to have serious difficulty recognizing that ALL teams have weaknesses, and depth issues. In fact, the whole "depth" complaint is getting comical. Do you think other teams have so many quality LBers that they can lose 4 of them, and not see a degradation of their defense? Get real. There was an acknowledgement of the injuries, "Bolts were beat up, no doubt."........ Every roster has weaknesses, or depth issues, even the eventual Champion's roster. Having talent in the depth is as critical to winning a championship as having 'luck', or so I believe. You disagreeing with me, simply stunning....... Yeah, that's going to happen when you write stuff like "[the Chargers] were nowhere near as good as their 12-4 record implies." On a Chargers board, no less. SMH
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