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Post by frozendisc on Jan 27, 2023 6:47:16 GMT -7
Staley's hot D came against poor clubs, so I am not buying it. The D had terrible halftime adjustments all season, it is part of their identity, and I blame Staley just like I blamed Lombardi. The Chargers, in keeping the same structure in D coaching staff, will see the same results. TT is making a mistake now that will see him walking out the door next year with Staley. Mia was a top offense 'till we tore them a new one. We had no problem with def half time adjustments wks 14 - 17. The D played well after the bye for the most part and seized the opportunity for the #5 playoff seed. Too bad the O never reached the same level. While I acknowledge I made a general statement about adjustments being poor 'all season', the reality is they were poor on enough occasions that when reviewing the season, it is an issue begging for correction. There has been no such correction, in fact the Chargers have embraced the same structure moving forward. I believe that is a huge mistake......time will tell.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 27, 2023 7:19:35 GMT -7
Mia was a top offense 'till we tore them a new one. We had no problem with def half time adjustments wks 14 - 17. The D played well after the bye for the most part and seized the opportunity for the #5 playoff seed. Too bad the O never reached the same level. While I acknowledge I made a general statement about adjustments being poor 'all season', the reality is they were poor on enough occasions that when reviewing the season, it is an issue begging for correction. There has been no such correction, in fact the Chargers have embraced the same structure moving forward. I believe that is a huge mistake......time will tell. All joking aside I agree with this, if we don't bring in an exceptional candidate and instead hire Zac Robinson something is wrong. This team is not getting the attention it deserves from the owner.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 27, 2023 8:56:38 GMT -7
While I acknowledge I made a general statement about adjustments being poor 'all season', the reality is they were poor on enough occasions that when reviewing the season, it is an issue begging for correction. There has been no such correction, in fact the Chargers have embraced the same structure moving forward. I believe that is a huge mistake......time will tell. All joking aside I agree with this, if we don't bring in an exceptional candidate and instead hire Zac Robinson something is wrong. This team is not getting the attention it deserves from the owner. My statement you are quoting refers to no change in defence structure, Staley calling the D, Hill remains as DC. Whom they choose for OC will be interesting, and how successful is clearly unknown, but at least they are attempting to fix an issue.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 27, 2023 9:53:43 GMT -7
All joking aside I agree with this, if we don't bring in an exceptional candidate and instead hire Zac Robinson something is wrong. This team is not getting the attention it deserves from the owner. My statement you are quoting refers to no change in defence structure, Staley calling the D, Hill remains as DC. Whom they choose for OC will be interesting, and how successful is clearly unknown, but at least they are attempting to fix an issue. I honestly don't think there is a change to anything nor will there be.
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Post by sonorajim on Jan 27, 2023 11:43:26 GMT -7
My statement you are quoting refers to no change in defence structure, Staley calling the D, Hill remains as DC. Whom they choose for OC will be interesting, and how successful is clearly unknown, but at least they are attempting to fix an issue. I honestly don't think there is a change to anything nor will there be. There is always change. It's completely impossible to do the 2022 season again. Be more specific, please.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 27, 2023 13:11:52 GMT -7
I honestly don't think there is a change to anything nor will there be. There is always change. It's completely impossible to do the 2022 season again. Be more specific, please.
Wildcard playoff one and done. Reliving the end of the 2022 season is not just possible it is likely. They need to get the OC hire correct and Staley needs to ensure the defense does not lose key players or regress. Otherwise its groundhog day around here.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 27, 2023 14:23:40 GMT -7
There is always change. It's completely impossible to do the 2022 season again. Be more specific, please.
Wildcard playoff one and done. Reliving the end of the 2022 season is not just possible it is likely. They need to get the OC hire correct and Staley needs to ensure the defense does not lose key players or regress. Otherwise its groundhog day around here. That was my thought as well. Who says we can't do one and done again ?
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Post by sdc on Jan 27, 2023 14:29:05 GMT -7
While I acknowledge I made a general statement about adjustments being poor 'all season', the reality is they were poor on enough occasions that when reviewing the season, it is an issue begging for correction. There has been no such correction, in fact the Chargers have embraced the same structure moving forward. I believe that is a huge mistake......time will tell. All joking aside I agree with this, if we don't bring in an exceptional candidate and instead hire Zac Robinson something is wrong. This team is not getting the attention it deserves from the owner. I'm sure that they will bring in the person that they feel is the strongest candidate. That person, whoever it ends up being, will be lambasted by 80% of the fan base for no other reason than, it was "their" guy. I'm smart enough to understand that I know shit which is actually the best candidate. It could very well be Zac Robinson. The same guys that are screaming for Shane Steichen are the same guys that called Spanos cheap and Telesco a moron for having a guy with no real experience as our OC. I take some solace reading that Lombardi was never really Staley top choice and that he was blocked from interviewing a few of the guys that they are looking at now. What I do know is that both Telesco and Staley will pick the guy that they feel is the best, not the cheapest. Lastly, you have no idea what "attention" the owner is giving to this situation. Not to mention, the way that Spanos' is vilified (some justified, some not) you would think that most would want him not involved in the process.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 27, 2023 14:32:43 GMT -7
All joking aside I agree with this, if we don't bring in an exceptional candidate and instead hire Zac Robinson something is wrong. This team is not getting the attention it deserves from the owner. I'm sure that they will bring in the person that they feel is the strongest candidate. That person, whoever it ends up being, will be lambasted by 80% of the fan base for no other reason than, it was "their" guy. I'm smart enough to understand that I know shit which is actually the best candidate. It could very well be Zac Robinson. The same guys that are screaming for Shane Steichen are the same guys that called Spanos cheap and Telesco a moron for having a guy with no real experience as our OC. I take some solace reading that Lombardi was never really Staley top choice and that he was blocked from interviewing a few of the guys that they are looking at now. What I do know is that both Telesco and Staley will pick the guy that they feel is the best, not the cheapest. Lastly, you have no idea what "attention" the owner is giving to this situation. Not to mention, the way that Spanos' is vilified (some justified, some not) you would think that most would want him not involved in the process. I'm def guilty of this. Hindsight is a bitch.
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Post by sdc on Jan 27, 2023 14:37:40 GMT -7
Wildcard playoff one and done. Reliving the end of the 2022 season is not just possible it is likely. They need to get the OC hire correct and Staley needs to ensure the defense does not lose key players or regress. Otherwise its groundhog day around here. That was my thought as well. Who says we can't do one and done again ? That doesn't mean that they season was the same. I'd like to see.... 1. Herbert's progress. He clearly too a step back this season. It could have been the Ribs or Lombardi. He needs better run support and healthy receivers. He has become risk adverse and doesn't take enough chances. He also needs to use his legs more. I can count at least ten occasions where he should have run but didn't. He also needs to make getting first downs are a bigger priority. How many times did 3rd and short turn into 4th and short? I put that on Herbert. 2. We need to run the ball. 3. We need to play more physically on both sides of the ball. 4. We need to execute the basics better. Leading the league in drops and missed tackles is completely unacceptable. 5. We need to stop the run. The greatest OC in the world would not fix many of these issues. That will fall on Staley and his learning curve.
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Post by sdc on Jan 27, 2023 14:46:05 GMT -7
While admitting that I don't know shit about the qualities and skill sets of the OC candidates that we are looking at, if I had a choice, I would pick Todd Monken. Maybe because he's in my back yard. Maybe because he was the missing link for defensive guru and first time HC Kirby Smart. Maybe it's that he has run every room for offenses both in the NFL and in college. He made Stetson Bennett a star. He is inventive and has a killer instinct. In a nutshell he helped build the best team in program in college.
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Post by sonorajim on Jan 27, 2023 15:06:56 GMT -7
There is always change. It's completely impossible to do the 2022 season again. Be more specific, please.
Wildcard playoff one and done. Reliving the end of the 2022 season is not just possible it is likely. They need to get the OC hire correct and Staley needs to ensure the defense does not lose key players or regress. Otherwise its groundhog day around here. It will be different, guaranteed but the result could be the same.
I believe we'll improve. A lot will happen before Aug training camp. I'm guessing 11-5 & a playoff win(blindfold darts).
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Post by moekid on Jan 27, 2023 15:41:24 GMT -7
While admitting that I don't know shit about the qualities and skill sets of the OC candidates that we are looking at, if I had a choice, I would pick Todd Monken. Maybe because he's in my back yard. Maybe because he was the missing link for defensive guru and first time HC Kirby Smart. Maybe it's that he has run every room for offenses both in the NFL and in college. He made Stetson Bennett a star. He is inventive and has a killer instinct. In a nutshell he helped build the best team in program in college. Haven’t heard his name mentioned on the list of candidates which to me seems underwhelming. The fact that they haven’t pulled the trigger yet makes me think they haven’t met the guy yet who killed it in the room. |
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Post by moekid on Jan 27, 2023 15:45:44 GMT -7
did Lombardi call a jet sweep to Bandy on 3rd and less than a years at the end of the first half against JaX? Did that same play get called 4x during the season for negative 21 yards. And that was with Carter running it? Should Staley have been fired as well. You’re damn right he should have. The defense has underperformed his entire tenure. There are 76 offensive plays a game. Bill Walsh is going to have some clunkers. I was no fan of Lombardi's, but if you think that instantly creates a championship culture under Staley, you are incorrect. What? Are you actually putting Lombardi and Bill Walsh in the same sentence? I will wager that Walsh never ran such a clunker of a play in such a critical moment. Neva I am in now way suggesting that Lombardi is the only problem with this team. I still massive weaknesses in the areas I was screaming about last off season when I begged for RB1 and LB1. We still aren’t strong enough in the middle. Now I hate everybody. Derwin, Bosa,MW, Herbert on down. We needed a superstar performance out of somebody and we got it in the first half from Samuel but none of the big dogs |
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 27, 2023 16:56:01 GMT -7
While admitting that I don't know shit about the qualities and skill sets of the OC candidates that we are looking at, if I had a choice, I would pick Todd Monken. Maybe because he's in my back yard. Maybe because he was the missing link for defensive guru and first time HC Kirby Smart. Maybe it's that he has run every room for offenses both in the NFL and in college. He made Stetson Bennett a star. He is inventive and has a killer instinct. In a nutshell he helped build the best team in program in college. Haven’t heard his name mentioned on the list of candidates which to me seems underwhelming. The fact that they haven’t pulled the trigger yet makes me think they haven’t met the guy yet who killed it in the room. Curious if they are still waiting for somebody on 1 of the 4 remaining playoff teams.
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