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Post by frozendisc on Feb 13, 2023 8:24:54 GMT -7
You are absolutely right. Have to run the ball.
I think TT and Staley think that with a healthy O-Line they can run the ball with this stable of running backs.
I would be surprised if we pick up an early round running back.
That's enough to scare the hell out of you. This is NOT a one off year. We haven't run the ball with respectful rankings in years. Kellen Moore is a coordinator, not a magician. Freak laying down the hammer about this running game jibberish.....
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 13, 2023 8:27:50 GMT -7
I do not want Mack released either, but big big cap savings there, so it must be considered. Great analysis on KA.....KA restructures, or bye. Terrible analysis on MW, but your bias has always affected your MW takes. KA lives on route running skills, MW is that big body contested pass type.....very different WR's, but both are very good. Fingers crossed on getting a KA restructure......and maybe a Mack restructure? FA results will drive the draft direction to a large degree. That noted, we just see things differently when looking at this offence. TT could take the best WR in this draft, and that won't fix the running issue. I just believe they have to become at least average at running the ball. How that is achieved is the conundrum.....Robinson, if there, might be the answer. Mike Williams is a good WR2... He does excel at jump balls and contested catches, he also is best at running in a straight line. It is what it is and I feel he is a part of the team.
I'm all for a RB as I keep saying, but I also think Moore will have a bigger impact on that side of the ball than anything else.
I am hoping you are correct, Moore brings creativity to the offence, and Robinson brings the hammer to the running game!
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Post by moekid on Feb 13, 2023 9:37:21 GMT -7
I do not want Mack released either, but big big cap savings there, so it must be considered. Great analysis on KA.....KA restructures, or bye. Terrible analysis on MW, but your bias has always affected your MW takes. KA lives on route running skills, MW is that big body contested pass type.....very different WR's, but both are very good. Fingers crossed on getting a KA restructure......and maybe a Mack restructure? FA results will drive the draft direction to a large degree. That noted, we just see things differently when looking at this offence. TT could take the best WR in this draft, and that won't fix the running issue. I just believe they have to become at least average at running the ball. How that is achieved is the conundrum.....Robinson, if there, might be the answer. did you know the superbowl Chefs with all throwing Mahomes, had 27 passes, and 26 rushing attempts. Mahomes only had 182 yards throwing. YOU HAVE HAVE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RUN THE BALL IN THE POSTSEASON We were 30th in rushing and could not hold a 27-0 lead. I was surprised by how well the Chiefs ran the ball. When they came out in the 3rd quarter they just ran it and ran it effectively. With a rookie late rounder that we passed on as did many other teams. The chiefs were in a rebuilding year and won the Super Bowl. Put that in your pipe and smoke it |
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 13, 2023 17:09:59 GMT -7
did you know the superbowl Chefs with all throwing Mahomes, had 27 passes, and 26 rushing attempts. Mahomes only had 182 yards throwing. YOU HAVE HAVE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RUN THE BALL IN THE POSTSEASON We were 30th in rushing and could not hold a 27-0 lead. I was surprised by how well the Chiefs ran the ball. When they came out in the 3rd quarter they just ran it and ran it effectively. With a rookie late rounder that we passed on as did many other teams. The chiefs were in a rebuilding year and won the Super Bowl. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Yup, I was about to post that... Pacheco was a 7th round pick. We just have to get better at finding skill position talent in the later rounds.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 14, 2023 6:23:18 GMT -7
I was surprised by how well the Chiefs ran the ball. When they came out in the 3rd quarter they just ran it and ran it effectively. With a rookie late rounder that we passed on as did many other teams. The chiefs were in a rebuilding year and won the Super Bowl. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Yup, I was about to post that... Pacheco was a 7th round pick. We just have to get better at finding skill position talent in the later rounds. We have failed at that for years. Time for a new strategy.
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 14, 2023 7:18:24 GMT -7
Yup, I was about to post that... Pacheco was a 7th round pick. We just have to get better at finding skill position talent in the later rounds. We have failed at that for years. Time for a new strategy. Most mocks have us taking WR, RB, TE in the first and I'm good with that.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 14, 2023 7:29:26 GMT -7
We have failed at that for years. Time for a new strategy. Most mocks have us taking WR, RB, TE in the first and I'm good with that. Can we have them all ?
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 14, 2023 8:15:52 GMT -7
We have failed at that for years. Time for a new strategy. Most mocks have us taking WR, RB, TE in the first and I'm good with that. Does that mean TT goes defence?
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 14, 2023 10:09:59 GMT -7
Most mocks have us taking WR, RB, TE in the first and I'm good with that. Does that mean TT goes defence? Imagine if he trades up for defense!  Looool I would die... I wouldn't be surprised or mad, I think it would be impossible to be any more disappointed in this team at that point.
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 14, 2023 10:16:44 GMT -7
You are absolutely right. Have to run the ball.
I think TT and Staley think that with a healthy O-Line they can run the ball with this stable of running backs.
I would be surprised if we pick up an early round running back.
That's enough to scare the hell out of you. This is NOT a one off year. We haven't run the ball with respectful rankings in years. Kellen Moore is a coordinator, not a magician. He's some of each. He uses a lot if deception in personnel, formations and motion. OL is an obvious want. The deceptively fast TE Musgrave may be attractive. We'd have a Duck throwing to a Beaver. Seems kinda poetic.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 15, 2023 6:19:32 GMT -7
That's enough to scare the hell out of you. This is NOT a one off year. We haven't run the ball with respectful rankings in years. Kellen Moore is a coordinator, not a magician. He's some of each. He uses a lot if deception in personnel, formations and motion. OL is an obvious want. The deceptively fast TE Musgrave may be attractive. We'd have a Duck throwing to a Beaver. Seems kinda poetic. I know that has to be reported, just not sure how to write it up.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 15, 2023 7:38:45 GMT -7
That's enough to scare the hell out of you. This is NOT a one off year. We haven't run the ball with respectful rankings in years. Kellen Moore is a coordinator, not a magician. He's some of each. He uses a lot if deception in personnel, formations and motion. OL is an obvious want. The deceptively fast TE Musgrave may be attractive. We'd have a Duck throwing to a Beaver. Seems kinda poetic. Wasn't Moore's college days full of crazy wild out of the box offence?
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 15, 2023 8:18:33 GMT -7
He's some of each. He uses a lot if deception in personnel, formations and motion. OL is an obvious want. The deceptively fast TE Musgrave may be attractive. We'd have a Duck throwing to a Beaver. Seems kinda poetic. Wasn't Moore's college days full of crazy wild out of the box offence? I like Moore a LOT, and I will add to that: You have no idea how much he will help Herbert. He was THE pick.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 15, 2023 8:51:44 GMT -7
Wasn't Moore's college days full of crazy wild out of the box offence? I like Moore a LOT, and I will add to that: You have no idea how much he will help Herbert. He was THE pick. Drafting Robinson would help Herbert a lot as well!
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 15, 2023 8:55:30 GMT -7
I like Moore a LOT, and I will add to that: You have no idea how much he will help Herbert. He was THE pick. Drafting Robinson would help Herbert a lot as well! Jax first round RB draft pick Travis Etienne Jr. had 109 yards rushing in their playoff victory. Ekeler had 35 yards. REACT AS REALITY WILL KILL YOU WITH FACTS !!!!!!!!!!! 30th in rushing.
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