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Post by afboltfan on Mar 21, 2023 13:21:45 GMT -7
As much as folks coughfrozencough want to dump on Ekeler and minimize his contributions based off his current status or position, the fact of the matter remains he outplayed his contract and deserves more money. I'm leaning toward a draft day trade... Bold prediction.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 21, 2023 13:42:37 GMT -7
As much as folks coughfrozencough want to dump on Ekeler and minimize his contributions based off his current status or position, the fact of the matter remains he outplayed his contract and deserves more money. I'm leaning toward a draft day trade... Bold prediction. I likey bold predictions. What should we get on draft day for him ?
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Post by ohioboltfan on Mar 21, 2023 14:09:36 GMT -7
As much as folks coughfrozencough want to dump on Ekeler and minimize his contributions based off his current status or position, the fact of the matter remains he outplayed his contract and deserves more money. I'm leaning toward a draft day trade... Bold prediction. Definitely a bold take, AF! I don't think so though- I think if anyone wanted Ekeler they would've traded for him already. I think he is more valuable to the Chargers than other teams see him on theirs's. Maybe TT has a high asking price, but I really don't think that is what has held up a trade. We haven't heard anything, probably because there is nothing to hear. So I infer a lack of interest in trading for and giving a pay raise to a RB who is more of a receiving threat than an traditional running back. Again, he's great here and I want him to stay- but sometimes skills aren't as transferrable or desirable as you'd want.
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Post by lightsout42 on Mar 21, 2023 20:16:44 GMT -7
LOT's make big money also..... Ekeler is neither LOT nor WR..... RB's make less, boo hoo..... He had the same yards as Keenan Allen who makes 20 million dollars a year !!!!!! REACT TO DESTRUCTION !!!!! Pretty sure it’s Ek that’s reacting to his value destruction right now. |
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 22, 2023 5:08:03 GMT -7
LOT's make big money also..... Ekeler is neither LOT nor WR..... RB's make less, boo hoo..... He had the same yards as Keenan Allen who makes 20 million dollars a year !!!!!! REACT TO DESTRUCTION !!!!! Can Ekeler play WR as well as KA? No, he cannot. Ekeler is a RB and RB's make less......boo hoo
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 22, 2023 5:12:06 GMT -7
He had the same yards as Keenan Allen who makes 20 million dollars a year !!!!!! REACT TO DESTRUCTION !!!!! Pretty sure it’s Ek that’s reacting to his value destruction right now. Pretty sure his 6.25 million scheduled for this year tells me who is really destructed. No ? HE does not worry about making the rent brother.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 22, 2023 5:26:48 GMT -7
As much as folks coughfrozencough want to dump on Ekeler and minimize his contributions based off his current status or position, the fact of the matter remains he outplayed his contract and deserves more money. I'm leaning toward a draft day trade... Bold prediction. This is what is frustrating about your posts on this af..... I am not 'dumping' on Ekeler. I am not minimizing Ekelers contributions. I am not minimizing Ekelers position. I have acknowledged Ekeler has definitely out performed expectations of his current contract. (expectations from either club or player) I have agreed Ekeler should get more money on the next contract. (I even proposed a 3 year 10mil/yr contract....that would be a 4 million a year raise.) I do not like any player using the media in the fashion Ekeler is doing, and it is completely one sided and self serving. Has Ekeler said TT won't talk contract? nope. Has Ekeler said TT is only willing to pay him 7-8 million.....or any number? nope. Has Ekeler said TT is only offering a two year deal? nope. None of these aspects are being mentioned, and I suspect it is because this information might very well take some air out of the 'poor me' balloon.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 22, 2023 5:34:34 GMT -7
As much as folks coughfrozencough want to dump on Ekeler and minimize his contributions based off his current status or position, the fact of the matter remains he outplayed his contract and deserves more money. I'm leaning toward a draft day trade... Bold prediction. Definitely a bold take, AF! I don't think so though- I think if anyone wanted Ekeler they would've traded for him already. I think he is more valuable to the Chargers than other teams see him on theirs's. Maybe TT has a high asking price, but I really don't think that is what has held up a trade. We haven't heard anything, probably because there is nothing to hear. So I infer a lack of interest in trading for and giving a pay raise to a RB who is more of a receiving threat than an traditional running back. Again, he's great here and I want him to stay- but sometimes skills aren't as transferrable or desirable as you'd want. The bold above is a great take, and probably has some solid accuracy to it. Of course it could be TT's ask (two firsts), or Ekelers ask (13 mil/yr/6yrs) that is killing any interest. *The asks are extreme and completely made up.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 22, 2023 5:39:25 GMT -7
As much as folks coughfrozencough want to dump on Ekeler and minimize his contributions based off his current status or position, the fact of the matter remains he outplayed his contract and deserves more money. I'm leaning toward a draft day trade... Bold prediction. I likey bold predictions. What should we get on draft day for him ? Depends..... Did TT draft Robinson?
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 22, 2023 5:56:35 GMT -7
I likey bold predictions. What should we get on draft day for him ? Depends..... Did TT draft Robinson? Have to move up for that.
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 22, 2023 6:17:16 GMT -7
As much as folks coughfrozencough want to dump on Ekeler and minimize his contributions based off his current status or position, the fact of the matter remains he outplayed his contract and deserves more money. I'm leaning toward a draft day trade... Bold prediction. This is what is frustrating about your posts on this af..... I am not 'dumping' on Ekeler. I am not minimizing Ekelers contributions. I am not minimizing Ekelers position. I have acknowledged Ekeler has definitely out performed expectations of his current contract. (expectations from either club or player) I have agreed Ekeler should get more money on the next contract. (I even proposed a 3 year 10mil/yr contract....that would be a 4 million a year raise.) I do not like any player using the media in the fashion Ekeler is doing, and it is completely one sided and self serving. Has Ekeler said TT won't talk contract? nope. Has Ekeler said TT is only willing to pay him 7-8 million.....or any number? nope. Has Ekeler said TT is only offering a two year deal? nope. None of these aspects are being mentioned, and I suspect it is because this information might very well take some air out of the 'poor me' balloon. I get what your saying but the fact this information was leaked to the media (no matter by whom) is just something about the day and age we live in of social media and immediate news. I think Ekeler has been nothing but professional and nothing about this screams "poor me", like I said and apparently like you say, he earned a raise.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 22, 2023 6:18:27 GMT -7
personally, i see nothing wrong with either side here. This is simply part of the business. In the end, when a deal gets done, both sides shake hands and move on. The end game is the Lombardi. Managing your portion of the business side of the goal is simply "responsibility". Ekler wants the bolts, the bolts want Ekeler. I think they get a deal done. I agree that there's nothing wrong with either side here. A player can ask for a raise at any time, although I don't like it when negatives are aired publicly. The team can say no, although I wish there was something they could do for a star player. Ekeler received his contract of about six million per year in 2020. The past two years he has played every game and scored 18 and 20 touchdowns- which is why he is asking for a raise! But in 2020 when he only scored three touchdowns did he offer to give back some money for NOT playing up to it? Did the team demand a refund? No and nope. I also think Ekeler should be peeved at the players at the top of the RB salary list. Most of those- and I use Zeke as a prime example- got a big payday and then failed to live up to it. That makes it hard to see the value in paying for this position which has simultaneously been diluted by NFL offensive schemes and proved to be capable with late-round players, not just high-priced studs. There is two sides to the story. Both have profited, both have lost. None of this has any measure really. ( if you score X TD's = X$). its subjective. So this is what happens. I agree its sad when aired in public. Its also useless.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 22, 2023 6:23:16 GMT -7
personally, i see nothing wrong with either side here. This is simply part of the business. In the end, when a deal gets done, both sides shake hands and move on. The end game is the Lombardi. Managing your portion of the business side of the goal is simply "responsibility". Ekler wants the bolts, the bolts want Ekeler. I think they get a deal done. That is the problem.....a deal got done, and Ekeler has performed much better than he expected. With a year left in that deal, he now wants a new contract that pays him what? No numbers mentioned.... Another aspect of this plea I find interesting is the "long term" desire. Wonder what long term means in his view. This use of the media comes after he has had the opportunity to gauge interest from other clubs. My guess is it was not great. Using the media to apply pressure on TT never goes well. I think this might be heading more towards ugly, as opposed to happy resolution. I'll remain optimistic. Stuff gets aired all the time. this is business and you do whats best for it. The chargers are better with Ekler than without
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 22, 2023 6:25:49 GMT -7
As much as folks coughfrozencough want to dump on Ekeler and minimize his contributions based off his current status or position, the fact of the matter remains he outplayed his contract and deserves more money. I'm leaning toward a draft day trade... Bold prediction. maybe you and Disc are correct and bolts move on. Trade involve salary? No? Tough to trade that which seeks more than others are willing to take on. if that's the case. As long as bolts get better, I'm in.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 22, 2023 6:27:29 GMT -7
Definitely a bold take, AF! I don't think so though- I think if anyone wanted Ekeler they would've traded for him already. I think he is more valuable to the Chargers than other teams see him on theirs's. Maybe TT has a high asking price, but I really don't think that is what has held up a trade. We haven't heard anything, probably because there is nothing to hear. So I infer a lack of interest in trading for and giving a pay raise to a RB who is more of a receiving threat than an traditional running back. Again, he's great here and I want him to stay- but sometimes skills aren't as transferrable or desirable as you'd want. The bold above is a great take, and probably has some solid accuracy to it. Of course it could be TT's ask (two firsts), or Ekelers ask (13 mil/yr/6yrs) that is killing any interest. *The asks are extreme and completely made up. negotiation 101. Ask for more than you are willing to take. Simple.
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