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Post by frozendisc on Mar 29, 2023 18:36:40 GMT -7
If it is true, he is an idiot. Herbert's extension will be cap friendly for this year and next. but after that it will be big. This year probably in the 18-20 million cap hit, next year max 30 mill. then after 2024 it will be 55+.
The singing bonus money can be differed.
He seems pretty humble in the media at least, and also seems like his back ground and education make him a good fit for making so much money so young. I mean he has already made a ton of dough compared to us peasants, and has at least outwardly stayed humble.
I have no idea what the structure of Herbert's contract might look like. NFL is vastly different than the NHL on contracts and cap rules. I do agree Herbert appears to be pretty level headed in his handling both fame and money. Good job by his parents I say.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 29, 2023 18:40:15 GMT -7
Herbert...50 mil KA....34 mil MW....32 mil Bosa....36 mil The above are 2024 cap hits. (Herbert is a guess) NFL cap for 2023 is 224 million. It will go up some for 2024, but there are cap casualties coming to this roster. Ekeler is not getting 12 mil/yr, for years and years.....it just isn't in the budget. Yep. At least one major contract will be gone. Probably many cuts/trades in a significant rebuild if there’s a new GM and coaching staff if they don’t go deep this season. The guy above GM in this organization doesn't strike me as being brave enough to go full blown burn it to the ground, and his dad really hates that approach.
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Post by lightsout42 on Mar 29, 2023 18:42:47 GMT -7
Yep. At least one major contract will be gone. Probably many cuts/trades in a significant rebuild if there’s a new GM and coaching staff if they don’t go deep this season. The guy above GM in this organization doesn't strike me as being brave enough to go full blown burn it to the ground, and his dad really hates that approach. I think you see them making some serious chips-in bets on this club right now because they know that they’re either going to win deep (at least making the AFCCG) or move on and do an overhaul from TT down. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 30, 2023 5:12:14 GMT -7
Herbert...50 mil KA....34 mil MW....32 mil Bosa....36 mil The above are 2024 cap hits. (Herbert is a guess) NFL cap for 2023 is 224 million. It will go up some for 2024, but there are cap casualties coming to this roster. Ekeler is not getting 12 mil/yr, for years and years.....it just isn't in the budget. Yep. At least one major contract will be gone. Probably many cuts/trades in a significant rebuild if there’s a new GM and coaching staff if they don’t go deep this season. Post reported for deranged sickness.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 30, 2023 5:18:46 GMT -7
There is a story circulating that Saquan Barkley turned down 12 million per year from the Giants. If it is true, he is an idiot. Ah, but he is a young idiot. He's only 26. Time to get his big contract. 1426 rushing yards, playoffs included last year, which was probably more than our whole team. 400 yards in the air. He's a goodie, and loved in NY.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 30, 2023 5:23:16 GMT -7
The guy above GM in this organization doesn't strike me as being brave enough to go full blown burn it to the ground, and his dad really hates that approach. I think you see them making some serious chips-in bets on this club right now because they know that they’re either going to win deep (at least making the AFCCG) or move on and do an overhaul from TT down. I do not know what 'chip in bets' are, so can't really speak to your comment. I do not see ownership, in most cases, taking an either or position about success. End of season is where the determinations are made. The classic example for Chargers is the Marty and AJ saga....... The 'burn it to the ground' approach is rare. GM's get fired because the club is poorly run, coaches get fired because their message is stale, predominately speaking.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 30, 2023 5:26:45 GMT -7
If it is true, he is an idiot. Ah, but he is a young idiot. He's only 26. Time to get his big contract. 1426 rushing yards, playoffs included last year, which was probably more than our whole team. 400 yards in the air. He's a goodie, and loved in NY. The budget is only so big. It is a passing league. RB's get little love.......
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 30, 2023 5:48:07 GMT -7
Ah, but he is a young idiot. He's only 26. Time to get his big contract. 1426 rushing yards, playoffs included last year, which was probably more than our whole team. 400 yards in the air. He's a goodie, and loved in NY. The budget is only so big. It is a passing league. RB's get little love....... They will make it work out for their first round RB out of Penn State.
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Post by lightsout42 on Mar 30, 2023 5:57:57 GMT -7
I think you see them making some serious chips-in bets on this club right now because they know that they’re either going to win deep (at least making the AFCCG) or move on and do an overhaul from TT down. I do not know what 'chip in bets' are, so can't really speak to your comment. I do not see ownership, in most cases, taking an either or position about success. End of season is where the determinations are made. The classic example for Chargers is the Marty and AJ saga....... The 'burn it to the ground' approach is rare. GM's get fired because the club is poorly run, coaches get fired because their message is stale, predominately speaking. What I mean is that the team has made/is making decisions to win this season at the likely expense of the future. You do that when you have an imperative. |
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 30, 2023 7:05:47 GMT -7
I do not know what 'chip in bets' are, so can't really speak to your comment. I do not see ownership, in most cases, taking an either or position about success. End of season is where the determinations are made. The classic example for Chargers is the Marty and AJ saga....... The 'burn it to the ground' approach is rare. GM's get fired because the club is poorly run, coaches get fired because their message is stale, predominately speaking. What I mean is that the team has made/is making decisions to win this season at the likely expense of the future. You do that when you have an imperative. I take it you mean some level of the 'all in' approach. I do not see that in the decisions made to date. It seems like normal business decisions. If you are referring to the restructuring of contracts, I suppose that can be portrayed as kicking the can to another year, but it can also be portrayed as strategically sound versus selling the future for the present.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 30, 2023 7:07:02 GMT -7
The budget is only so big. It is a passing league. RB's get little love....... They will make it work out for their first round RB out of Penn State. To the tune of 12 mil/yr for multiple years.....not likely.
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Post by lightsout42 on Mar 30, 2023 7:09:31 GMT -7
What I mean is that the team has made/is making decisions to win this season at the likely expense of the future. You do that when you have an imperative. I take it you mean some level of the 'all in' approach. I do not see that in the decisions made to date. It seems like normal business decisions. If you are referring to the restructuring of contracts, I suppose that can be portrayed as kicking the can to another year, but it can also be portrayed as strategically sound versus selling the future for the present. I'm not sure you've fully considered the aggressive nature of the decisions (with respect to restructures) relative to nominal for the league and the team and what they mean financially for future cap years. Or perhaps you have and just don't think these decisions are abnormal. In any event, we definitely see things differently regarding how these things should be viewed and thus what they signal.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 30, 2023 9:23:45 GMT -7
I take it you mean some level of the 'all in' approach. I do not see that in the decisions made to date. It seems like normal business decisions. If you are referring to the restructuring of contracts, I suppose that can be portrayed as kicking the can to another year, but it can also be portrayed as strategically sound versus selling the future for the present. I'm not sure you've fully considered the aggressive nature of the decisions (with respect to restructures) relative to nominal for the league and the team and what they mean financially for future cap years. Or perhaps you have and just don't think these decisions are abnormal. In any event, we definitely see things differently regarding how these things should be viewed and thus what they signal. It sure looks like what you are saying. We are good now on restructuring but after that the price goes out of sight. Some things have to give after this year. I honestly don't know how KC is doing it ....................
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Post by lightsout42 on Mar 30, 2023 9:27:48 GMT -7
I'm not sure you've fully considered the aggressive nature of the decisions (with respect to restructures) relative to nominal for the league and the team and what they mean financially for future cap years. Or perhaps you have and just don't think these decisions are abnormal. In any event, we definitely see things differently regarding how these things should be viewed and thus what they signal. It sure looks like what you are saying. We are good now on restructuring but after that the price goes out of sight. Some things have to give after this year. I honestly don't know how KC is doing it .................... KC drafts starters outside of round 1 and have a ton of rookie contracts.
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 30, 2023 10:01:56 GMT -7
KC's biggest contracts seem to be Mahomes, Kelce, and the O/D lines. They let Tyreek go and just don't pay the other skill positions. Works for them...
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