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Post by afboltfan on May 9, 2023 20:08:30 GMT -7
Tom Telesco: "Herbert is here this year and next year" "The sooner the better"...
I sense drama brewing...
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Post by lightsout42 on May 9, 2023 20:47:58 GMT -7
I don’t think there’s any reason to think this won’t happen. Not hearing drama. It’s a big contract. But Herbert is the Chargers. He’ll get signed.
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Post by joemcrugby on May 10, 2023 4:58:49 GMT -7
I don’t think that there will be drama either. It’s a massive contract where both sides are negotiating a payout schedule that is mutually agreeable. BTW it will not be fully guaranteed as NFL teams aren’t going to use the Deshaun Watson contract as a baseline.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2023 5:13:35 GMT -7
I don’t think that there will be drama either. It’s a massive contract where both sides are negotiating a payout schedule that is mutually agreeable. BTW it will not be fully guaranteed as NFL teams aren’t going to use the Deshaun Watson contract as a baseline. Somewhere around 265 million with 140 million guaranteed. Another 45 million in bonus guarantees...................................... Time to take care of our boy.
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Post by frozendisc on May 10, 2023 5:28:08 GMT -7
Salary cap going up each year will be a part as well......
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Post by moekid on May 10, 2023 7:42:47 GMT -7
I don’t think that there will be drama either. It’s a massive contract where both sides are negotiating a payout schedule that is mutually agreeable. BTW it will not be fully guaranteed as NFL teams aren’t going to use the Deshaun Watson contract as a baseline. Somewhere around 265 million with 140 million guaranteed. Another 45 million in bonus guarantees...................................... Time to take care of our boy. Our boy hasn’t won a playoff game. Keenan says he needs to become a leader. Ekeler says the same thing. |
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Post by frozendisc on May 10, 2023 7:52:17 GMT -7
Somewhere around 265 million with 140 million guaranteed. Another 45 million in bonus guarantees...................................... Time to take care of our boy. Our boy hasn’t won a playoff game. Keenan says he needs to become a leader. Ekeler says the same thing. None of what you posted will even remotely influence Herbert's new deal.....
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Post by moekid on May 10, 2023 7:59:52 GMT -7
Our boy hasn’t won a playoff game. Keenan says he needs to become a leader. Ekeler says the same thing. None of what you posted will even remotely influence Herbert's new deal..... It would if I was making the call. Herbert we exercised our 5th year option. Like the Dolphins did with Tua. You’re not Burrow, Hurts, Mahomes or Lamar yet. Show us and we’ll pay |
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Post by frozendisc on May 10, 2023 8:38:26 GMT -7
None of what you posted will even remotely influence Herbert's new deal..... It would if I was making the call. Herbert we exercised our 5th year option. Like the Dolphins did with Tua. You’re not Burrow, Hurts, Mahomes or Lamar yet. Show us and we’ll pay And that is the problem most fans have with contracts at the pro level. A player is not paid off of his past, he is payed off of the projections of his future play. Not to stir up af, but Ekeler is the great example. Ekeler wants top money over significant term, presumably. The issue for the club is Ekeler's age, and what the projections imply. 2-3 years is probably doable, but anything longer becomes questionable. If, and I say 'if' because I am not in the room, but if Ekeler is looking for five years, not going to happen. Now Herbert's projections for the next, what....ten years, are off the chart. Herbert will get paid.....and not having a PO win won't matter one bit.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2023 9:06:04 GMT -7
Our boy hasn’t won a playoff game. Keenan says he needs to become a leader. Ekeler says the same thing. None of what you posted will even remotely influence Herbert's new deal..... That's the first post of yours that I have hit the like button on in a long time.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2023 9:07:09 GMT -7
Somewhere around 265 million with 140 million guaranteed. Another 45 million in bonus guarantees...................................... Time to take care of our boy. Our boy hasn’t won a playoff game. Keenan says he needs to become a leader. Ekeler says the same thing. That is not what he said. If you go back and look at what he said I think it was a slap on Staley, not Herbert.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2023 9:11:47 GMT -7
None of what you posted will even remotely influence Herbert's new deal..... It would if I was making the call. Herbert we exercised our 5th year option. Like the Dolphins did with Tua. You’re not Burrow, Hurts, Mahomes or Lamar yet. Show us and we’ll pay Lamar Jackson ?!?!?! No SB wins. No SB appearances. 1-3
Jackson has a 1-3 career playoff record with four total touchdowns and seven turnovers. His passer rating in the playoffs (68.3) is 28.4 points lower than his regular season average, the fifth-largest dropoff in NFL history.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2023 9:17:35 GMT -7
It would if I was making the call. Herbert we exercised our 5th year option. Like the Dolphins did with Tua. You’re not Burrow, Hurts, Mahomes or Lamar yet. Show us and we’ll pay And that is the problem most fans have with contracts at the pro level. A player is not paid off of his past, he is payed off of the projections of his future play. Its a little of both. Ekeler wouldn't even dare discuss 9-10-11 million a year if it wasn't for his past performance. If he had been average he would take his 6 million and skip down the sidewalk. Did you know 49ers RB Christian McCaffrey gets 16 million a year ?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Post by afboltfan on May 10, 2023 10:06:27 GMT -7
Somewhere around 265 million with 140 million guaranteed. Another 45 million in bonus guarantees...................................... Time to take care of our boy. Our boy hasn’t won a playoff game. Keenan says he needs to become a leader. Ekeler says the same thing. This is why I think the comment from TT about Herbert being on the team this year and next is important... I think it will come down to the Chargers needing to resign Herbert vs. doing it early. Classic Chargers and TT... This new precedent of locking in your QB early is not the Charger way.
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Post by sonorajim on May 10, 2023 10:06:55 GMT -7
And that is the problem most fans have with contracts at the pro level. A player is not paid off of his past, he is payed off of the projections of his future play. Its a little of both. Ekeler wouldn't even dare discuss 9-10-11 million a year if it wasn't for his past performance. If he had been average he would take his 6 million and skip down the sidewalk. Did you know 49ers RB Christian McCaffrey gets 16 million a year ?!?!?!?!?!?! Yes. Very similar stats to Ekeler. SF's GM had too many concussions. That said Ek is underpaid by performance measures but not that much. McC isn't worth that either. Ek needs to prove that he can play for a new OC in a different scheme for the contract he signed, then move on if that's what he wants. He hasn't a prayer in hell of getting another $10m or anything close from TT.
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