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Post by cthommes on Nov 3, 2023 15:07:30 GMT -7
Just pretend QJ and Tiptoetothetulips pans out. That is actually considered an average draft. Round 1 • Pick 13 (13) • OT Rashawn Slater. Round 2 • Pick 15 (47) • CB Asante Samuel Jr. Round 3 • Pick 14 (77) • WR Josh Palmer.Round 3 • Pick 34 (97) • TE Tre' McKitty. Round 4 • Pick 13 (118) • EDGE Chris Rumph II. Round 5 • Pick 15 (159) • OT Brenden Jaimes. Round 6 • Pick 1 (185) • LB Nick Niemann. Looking good there Is Palmer a #1 or #2? #3... What will QJ end up being?
Palmer is no Allen...
You're right though, this seems like an average TT draft.
Do I have to list all the failures from previous drafts?
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 3, 2023 15:09:28 GMT -7
Is Palmer a #1 or #2? #3... What will QJ end up being?
Palmer is no Allen...
You're right though, this seems like an average TT draft.
Do I have to list all the failures from previous drafts?
Yes. We have nothing better to do until Monday night. You're right and I have no life sooooo...... Incoming.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 3, 2023 16:24:08 GMT -7
Yes. We have nothing better to do until Monday night. You're right and I have no life sooooo...... Incoming. You having little to do, you might as well add in all the missing picks every organization does every draft. It will give us all the info needed to determine if the guillotine should be brought out!
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 3, 2023 19:39:21 GMT -7
You're right and I have no life sooooo...... Incoming. You having little to do, you might as well add in all the missing picks every organization does every draft. It will give us all the info needed to determine if the guillotine should be brought out! Unnecessary, I don't follow other teams.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 4, 2023 5:51:52 GMT -7
You having little to do, you might as well add in all the missing picks every organization does every draft. It will give us all the info needed to determine if the guillotine should be brought out! Unnecessary, I don't follow other teams. I understand that, but you will undoubtedly claim TT is horrible at drafting and should be fired. I just want to know if most of the other GM's should be fired as well....
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Post by boltnut on Nov 4, 2023 6:40:59 GMT -7
Unnecessary, I don't follow other teams. I understand that, but you will undoubtedly claim TT is horrible at drafting and should be fired. I just want to know if most of the other GM's should be fired as well.... How about we start with KC's GM. Is Skyy Moore officially a bust yet? Was Kadarius Toney really worth a 3rd round pick and a 6th round pick? Is Marquez Valdez-Scandling really worth $10 million/year...? Inquiring minds want to know...
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 4, 2023 7:17:29 GMT -7
Lets also be realistic and judge based off results and not base your argument off low hanging fruit... How many Superbowls does KC have off their current GM? Is he taking a gamble on average Wr's for his above average QB? Sure... But they're still leading the division. Again, results.
The argument for TT has been hashed rehashed and rehashed again, I'm not doing it. Results speak for themselves after 10+ years.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 4, 2023 7:45:30 GMT -7
Lets also be realistic and judge based off results and not base your argument off low hanging fruit... How many Superbowls does KC have off their current GM? Is he taking a gamble on average Wr's for his above average QB? Sure... But they're still leading the division. Again, results. The argument for TT has been hashed rehashed and rehashed again, I'm not doing it. Results speak for themselves after 10+ years. But if the best GM in the AFCW is considered low hanging fruit, and just average like TT, then why blame a lack of success on TT. I realize you will just pivot and say Reid, or HC is the issue..... One club wins, the others live with fans crying and complaining.....
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Post by sonorajim on Nov 4, 2023 9:45:04 GMT -7
Lets also be realistic and judge based off results and not base your argument off low hanging fruit... How many Superbowls does KC have off their current GM? Is he taking a gamble on average Wr's for his above average QB? Sure... But they're still leading the division. Again, results. The argument for TT has been hashed rehashed and rehashed again, I'm not doing it. Results speak for themselves after 10+ years. But if the best GM in the AFCW is considered low hanging fruit, and just average like TT, then why blame a lack of success on TT. I realize you will just pivot and say Reid, or HC is the issue..... One club wins, the others live with fans crying and complaining..... QB is #1 need for a run in the playoffs. HC #2. GM has to get them and an adequate balance of player talent.
IF Chargers win in the 2023 playoffs, TT has done well. Otherwise, not so good. The glaring miss would be HC if we can't win in the playoffs with all our above average talent and a star QB.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 4, 2023 9:53:33 GMT -7
Lets also be realistic and judge based off results and not base your argument off low hanging fruit... How many Superbowls does KC have off their current GM? Is he taking a gamble on average Wr's for his above average QB? Sure... But they're still leading the division. Again, results. The argument for TT has been hashed rehashed and rehashed again, I'm not doing it. Results speak for themselves after 10+ years. But if the best GM in the AFCW is considered low hanging fruit, and just average like TT, then why blame a lack of success on TT. I realize you will just pivot and say Reid, or HC is the issue..... One club wins, the others live with fans crying and complaining..... You're either misunderstanding or just totally twisting my words for your argument, where am I calling their GM average?... KC is leading the division which is fact, their GM is taking a gamble with average WR's "this" season. That gamble does not reflect the GM negatively over his tenure, nor does it make him "an average GM" when his team is still leading the division. Lets revisit that come playoff time eh?
Besides... I'll take a GM with 2 Superbowls and 3 appearances over 10+ years of what we have now...
Come the end of the season I bet Spanos will too.
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Post by moekid on Nov 4, 2023 17:37:12 GMT -7
But if the best GM in the AFCW is considered low hanging fruit, and just average like TT, then why blame a lack of success on TT. I realize you will just pivot and say Reid, or HC is the issue..... One club wins, the others live with fans crying and complaining..... You're either misunderstanding or just totally twisting my words for your argument, where am I calling their GM average?... KC is leading the division which is fact, their GM is taking a gamble with average WR's "this" season. That gamble does not reflect the GM negatively over his tenure, nor does it make him "an average GM" when his team is still leading the division. Lets revisit that come playoff time eh?
Besides... I'll take a GM with 2 Superbowls and 3 appearances over 10+ years of what we have now...
Come the end of the season I bet Spanos will too.
Are people really comparing KC’s GM to TT? KC has dominated the AFC west for 5+ years and been the best in the nfl over that period. Like what? |
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Post by ohioboltfan on Nov 4, 2023 21:11:22 GMT -7
The Chiefs GM deserves credit for building a winning team. But the talent on the Chargers isn’t that far off from the Chiefs. The biggest difference between these two clubs is, one was willing to pay for a good head coach.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 5, 2023 3:50:19 GMT -7
The Chiefs GM deserves credit for building a winning team. But the talent on the Chargers isn’t that far off from the Chiefs. The biggest difference between these two clubs is, one was willing to pay for a good head coach. Agreed.
Either hire a coach that can win with TT's teams or hire a GM that can win with Spanos HC's... Apparently we can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
Something has to give...
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 5, 2023 7:36:01 GMT -7
The Chiefs GM deserves credit for building a winning team. But the talent on the Chargers isn’t that far off from the Chiefs. The biggest difference between these two clubs is, one was willing to pay for a good head coach. If what you posted is accurate, that the talent on both clubs is essentially the same, then why would TT be blamed for any results? af wants TT's head, has for years, and that bias clouds his judgement of TT's performance. I like Staley as a HC, but I would never hire Staley as a DC.......that is the problem on this club.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 5, 2023 11:57:56 GMT -7
The Chiefs GM deserves credit for building a winning team. But the talent on the Chargers isn’t that far off from the Chiefs. The biggest difference between these two clubs is, one was willing to pay for a good head coach. If what you posted is accurate, that the talent on both clubs is essentially the same, then why would TT be blamed for any results? af wants TT's head, has for years, and that bias clouds his judgement of TT's performance. I like Staley as a HC, but I would never hire Staley as a DC.......that is the problem on this club. This is comical my friend, we are 3-4 and the Chiefs are 6-3... We have NEVER won the AFCW with TT and got embarrassed in the playoffs last year with HIS and Staley's guys.
Saying the talent is the same on both clubs is hugely debatable.
Yet I have a bias and clouded judgment? Look in the mirror pal.
I see the forest through the trees, nothing changes till TT and Staley are gone. Over that Spanos, but lets be real, Spanos is not going anywhere.
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