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Post by boltnut on Nov 23, 2023 9:29:46 GMT -7
These NFL teams with profit sharing get around $400,000,000 a year.,that means ole’ Spano’s can easily afford a big name and maybe just put a little less in his already overflowing bank accounts. You wanna win a Super Bowl? Go spend the money and get the best out there to get the job done. Swallow your ego and make a move. This organization has had way too many failures and heartbreak, it’s time to break the cycle and for once do something for your loyal fans. Players salaries are @ $225 million and the Spanii are paying the relocation fee. Without the revenue from owning their own stadium, the Chargers are far behind most teams in revenue generation and have fewer dollars to spend than most teams. They will inevitably be out-bid for quality coaches.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 23, 2023 9:41:47 GMT -7
I would have forced a change two years ago, and firing Staley then would not have bothered me one bit. The fatal blow is TT/J Spanos not correcting this earlier.....TT gets fired, Spanos has the golden name, eh..... I have no idea about the dynamics in the organization, but that media post game showed me a delusional HC, and how can TT/J Spanos ignore that delusion? The statistics scream HERE IS THE PROBLEM.....Staley's defences are terrible. Tell me what about Spanos isn’t delusional for the past two decades? Which Spanos are we talking about? If you are referring to Dean, my 'guess' is he has little to do with running the club, he hires someone to do that. Who might you ask......well that would bring us to the next Spanos in this, John. I do think both J Spanos and TT have refused to accept reality with Staley's defence. It is bad, has been bad his entire time as HC, and three years of denial won't change that. They should all be fired, but of course one has that golden ticket, eh
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 23, 2023 9:43:07 GMT -7
These NFL teams with profit sharing get around $400,000,000 a year.,that means ole’ Spano’s can easily afford a big name and maybe just put a little less in his already overflowing bank accounts. You wanna win a Super Bowl? Go spend the money and get the best out there to get the job done. Swallow your ego and make a move. This organization has had way too many failures and heartbreak, it’s time to break the cycle and for once do something for your loyal fans. Players salaries are @ $225 million and the Spanii are paying the relocation fee. Without the revenue from owning their own stadium, the Chargers are far behind most teams in revenue generation and have fewer dollars to spend than most teams. They will inevitably be out-bid for quality coaches. One reason they reach for that new young gun......hoping to catch lightening!
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Post by lightsout42 on Nov 23, 2023 9:52:50 GMT -7
Tell me what about Spanos isn’t delusional for the past two decades? Which Spanos are we talking about? If you are referring to Dean, my 'guess' is he has little to do with running the club, he hires someone to do that. Who might you ask......well that would bring us to the next Spanos in this, John. I do think both J Spanos and TT have refused to accept reality with Staley's defence. It is bad, has been bad his entire time as HC, and three years of denial won't change that. They should all be fired, but of course one has that golden ticket, eh The truth is that there’s no good Spanos in ownership regardless of name or generation. John has more control today but it’s not like Dean had a stellar record. I don’t think TT is a strong GM; my suspicion is that the ownership took a more hands-on approach after the fallout from Marty/AJ and AJ’s collapse. Even Staley’s intro press conference seems to bear this out. So TT is just a personnel/operations and cap manager, with Ed being the actual cap guy. In short, this is Dean and John at work; TT is watching the end of his tenure as GM as Staley pours gas on the fire. |
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Post by moekid on Nov 23, 2023 9:55:02 GMT -7
Isn’t 2024 the year they promised to explore a sale?
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 23, 2023 10:05:27 GMT -7
Tell me what about Spanos isn’t delusional for the past two decades? Which Spanos are we talking about? If you are referring to Dean, my 'guess' is he has little to do with running the club, he hires someone to do that. Who might you ask......well that would bring us to the next Spanos in this, John. I do think both J Spanos and TT have refused to accept reality with Staley's defence. It is bad, has been bad his entire time as HC, and three years of denial won't change that. They should all be fired, but of course one has that golden ticket, eh Who are you and what have you done with Frozen??? I thought TT could do no wrong?
Welcome to the party!
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Post by cthommes on Nov 23, 2023 10:49:43 GMT -7
Isn’t 2024 the year they promised to explore a sale? Dea, is that you? |
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 23, 2023 17:12:55 GMT -7
Isn’t 2024 the year they promised to explore a sale? Wasn't there some NFL ruling Spanos could not sell before X number of years if they were allowed to move? Is 2024 that year?
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 23, 2023 17:23:15 GMT -7
Which Spanos are we talking about? If you are referring to Dean, my 'guess' is he has little to do with running the club, he hires someone to do that. Who might you ask......well that would bring us to the next Spanos in this, John. I do think both J Spanos and TT have refused to accept reality with Staley's defence. It is bad, has been bad his entire time as HC, and three years of denial won't change that. They should all be fired, but of course one has that golden ticket, eh Who are you and what have you done with Frozen??? I thought TT could do no wrong?
Welcome to the party!
I like TT and the work he has done as GM, for the most part. I do think he catches heat for stuff that is probably out of his actual control, but he is the face of the club so..... My big issue with both TT and J Spanos is letting the debacle of Staley's approach to defence go on and on and on.....it is terrible, and the results clearly show that. Poor defence year one, no adjustment in off season....poor defence year two, no adjustment in off season...... poor defence year three.....fire them all. It should have been addressed, it was not, so it costs you your job. Ignoring it is simply unacceptable.....TT should have forced change! Of course if J Spanos is saying leave it alone TT, then who is really at fault here.
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Post by NYBOLTFAN1 on Nov 23, 2023 21:09:15 GMT -7
In 2022, the revenue of the Los Angeles Chargers totaled 518 million U.S.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 24, 2023 5:03:19 GMT -7
Who are you and what have you done with Frozen??? I thought TT could do no wrong?
Welcome to the party!
I like TT and the work he has done as GM, for the most part. I do think he catches heat for stuff that is probably out of his actual control, but he is the face of the club so..... My big issue with both TT and J Spanos is letting the debacle of Staley's approach to defence go on and on and on.....it is terrible, and the results clearly show that. Poor defence year one, no adjustment in off season....poor defence year two, no adjustment in off season...... poor defence year three.....fire them all. It should have been addressed, it was not, so it costs you your job. Ignoring it is simply unacceptable.....TT should have forced change! Of course if J Spanos is saying leave it alone TT, then who is really at fault here. I 100% agree with you... But he did go out and buy the 2nd most expensive defense in the league. Questioning fault seems pointless after 3 years of going along with it.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 24, 2023 7:51:43 GMT -7
I like TT and the work he has done as GM, for the most part. I do think he catches heat for stuff that is probably out of his actual control, but he is the face of the club so..... My big issue with both TT and J Spanos is letting the debacle of Staley's approach to defence go on and on and on.....it is terrible, and the results clearly show that. Poor defence year one, no adjustment in off season....poor defence year two, no adjustment in off season...... poor defence year three.....fire them all. It should have been addressed, it was not, so it costs you your job. Ignoring it is simply unacceptable.....TT should have forced change! Of course if J Spanos is saying leave it alone TT, then who is really at fault here. I 100% agree with you... But he did go out and buy the 2nd most expensive defense in the league. Questioning fault seems pointless after 3 years of going along with it. My comment about 'fault' really is more about expectations of change moving forward. If J Spanos is actually making the decisions, and letting any fame or blame fall to TT as GM, then firing TT changes what for the organization? Might be the reason Staley has lasted this long, and the reason TT does not get fired. I do not know.....
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Post by totallybolted on Nov 24, 2023 10:04:07 GMT -7
Spanos' have a history of sticking with GM's longer. Its the owner who cuts the HC too. So really any extended poor performance is the owners fault.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 24, 2023 10:54:53 GMT -7
I 100% agree with you... But he did go out and buy the 2nd most expensive defense in the league. Questioning fault seems pointless after 3 years of going along with it. My comment about 'fault' really is more about expectations of change moving forward. If J Spanos is actually making the decisions, and letting any fame or blame fall to TT as GM, then firing TT changes what for the organization? Might be the reason Staley has lasted this long, and the reason TT does not get fired. I do not know..... I always said TT is average to mediocre as a GM IMHO. What does firing TT change? No way to know that until a replacement arrives, if it happens at all. Could be a change for the better and Herbert gets the tools he needs, or it could be worse and the team is a perennial loser. If I'm Spanos, I roll the dice... Mediocrity only takes you so far.
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Post by amped on Nov 24, 2023 11:50:24 GMT -7
My comment about 'fault' really is more about expectations of change moving forward. If J Spanos is actually making the decisions, and letting any fame or blame fall to TT as GM, then firing TT changes what for the organization? Might be the reason Staley has lasted this long, and the reason TT does not get fired. I do not know..... I always said TT is average to mediocre as a GM IMHO. What does firing TT change? No way to know that until a replacement arrives, if it happens at all. Could be a change for the better and Herbert gets the tools he needs, or it could be worse and the team is a perennial loser. If I'm Spanos, I roll the dice... Mediocrity only takes you so far. does Bobby Beathard have any descendants in a front office anywhere? Shanahan's boy is pretty good. Better than his dad I think.
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