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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 6, 2021 9:44:44 GMT -7
If no BB or Bill Cowher is available then: Urban Meyer and Jason Garrett. My wish list. I am on the Urban Meyer Team Joe McRugby said 82-9 and national championship means nothing. He wants the Jets equipment manager instead of Urban Meyer. Go figure.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jan 6, 2021 9:50:56 GMT -7
I am on the Urban Meyer Team Joe McRugby said 82-9 and national championship means nothing. He wants the Jets equipment manager instead of Urban Meyer. Go figure. I want a coach who has spent at least one minute in the NFL and hasn’t quit twice because of health reasons. Somehow I suspect more current coaching candidates other than the Jets equipment manager can check off those two boxes. |
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Post by lightsout42 on Jan 6, 2021 10:06:33 GMT -7
Urban Meyer, to me, has more known qualities in a HC role than e.g. coordinators like Daboll and Smith, but not all of those qualities are supportive of him. He and his health are too mercurial for my taste. And his lack ot NFL experience is a problem to me.
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Post by lightsout42 on Jan 6, 2021 10:17:28 GMT -7
Another thing: Urban Meyer’s record in college football certainly is good, but that doesn’t control for what those teams were likely to achieve anyway. With Utah, his teams showed noticeable improvement compared to years before and after. At Ohio State, that program’s historical record suggests that the program consistently recruits talent well and would likely achieve great records with a different coach, though the championships are certainly evidence that he keeps those talented teams staffed with good coaches and maintains their motivation. At Florida, the records prior to and after suggest the same, to me, as Ohio State but to a lesser degree, making his championship teams more anomalous than with the Buckeyes. In sum, he’s probably a very good to great college coach, but it’s uncertain to me if the personnel differences (recruiting vs draft/develop) between college and pro would affect his potential. I think it’s a risky play, especially given his two retirements, and that’s why I didn’t put Meyer high in my coaching candidate clusters.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 6, 2021 10:47:44 GMT -7
Joe McRugby said 82-9 and national championship means nothing. He wants the Jets equipment manager instead of Urban Meyer. Go figure. I want a coach who has spent at least one minute in the NFL and hasn’t quit twice because of health reasons. Somehow I suspect more current coaching candidates other than the Jets equipment manager can check off those two boxes. Oh 82-9 is a suck record Oh we want more coordinators because of the great success with them we have had so far Oh we are only allowed to spend 51 dollars a week in salary !!!!
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 6, 2021 11:02:37 GMT -7
Norv Turner coordinator
Anthony Lynn coord.
Mike Riley coord
Mike McCoy coord
Let's get another coordinator !!!! Yay !!!!! Great success deserves more !!!! Like Mike Riley going 14-34.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 6, 2021 11:11:32 GMT -7
Another thing: Urban Meyer’s record in college football certainly is good, but that doesn’t control for what those teams were likely to achieve anyway. With Utah, his teams showed noticeable improvement compared to years before and after. At Ohio State, that program’s historical record suggests that the program consistently recruits talent well and would likely achieve great records with a different coach, though the championships are certainly evidence that he keeps those talented teams staffed with good coaches and maintains their motivation. At Florida, the records prior to and after suggest the same, to me, as Ohio State but to a lesser degree, making his championship teams more anomalous than with the Buckeyes. In sum, he’s probably a very good to great college coach, but it’s uncertain to me if the personnel differences (recruiting vs draft/develop) between college and pro would affect his potential. I think it’s a risky play, especially given his two retirements, and that’s why I didn’t put Meyer high in my coaching candidate clusters. There is NO sure fire candidate. None zip zero. Harbaugh has sucked full on at Michigan. Garrett might bore you to tears fighting for 8-8. Who knows ?? So Urban's resume is good enough for consideration- Finalist.
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Post by lazylightning on Jan 6, 2021 11:14:20 GMT -7
Blah Blah Blah Go figure. I want a coach who has spent at least one minute in the NFL and hasn’t quit twice because of health reasons. Meyer has proven he can effectively lead multiple large football organizations to the pinnacle of college success. He should do fine managing the Chargers. I also think his coaching staff that has been great at the college level, but may not translate to the pros. Does he have enough pro level contacts to field a highly competitive team at the NFL level? I agree that Meyer's reaction to his health is a red flag; he may quit unexpectedly.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 6, 2021 11:17:32 GMT -7
I want a coach who has spent at least one minute in the NFL and hasn’t quit twice because of health reasons. Meyer has proven he can effectively lead multiple large football organizations to the pinnacle of college success. He should do fine managing the Chargers. I also think his coaching staff that has been great at the college level, but may not translate to the pros. Does he have enough pro level contacts to field a highly competitive team at the NFL level? I agree that Meyer's reaction to his health is a red flag; he may quit unexpectedly. and he's perfectly allowed to. Right after our SB victory.
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 6, 2021 12:40:17 GMT -7
I want a coach who has spent at least one minute in the NFL and hasn’t quit twice because of health reasons. Meyer has proven he can effectively lead multiple large football organizations to the pinnacle of college success. He should do fine managing the Chargers. I also think his coaching staff that has been great at the college level, but may not translate to the pros. Does he have enough pro level contacts to field a highly competitive team at the NFL level? I agree that Meyer's reaction to his health is a red flag; he may quit unexpectedly. on the bright side we would have a coach's health mirror his players. maybe that would bring harmony to our zen
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Post by joemcrugby on Jan 6, 2021 13:31:55 GMT -7
I want a coach who has spent at least one minute in the NFL and hasn’t quit twice because of health reasons. Somehow I suspect more current coaching candidates other than the Jets equipment manager can check off those two boxes. Oh 82-9 is a suck record Oh we want more coordinators because of the great success with them we have had so far Oh we are only allowed to spend 51 dollars a week in salary !!!! Nick Saban is / was a fairly successful college coach who had mixed in several years as an NFL assistant, including a stint with Parcells. Saban went back to college with a bright red “F” stamped on his forehead. Steve Spurrier (who like Meyer had zero NFL experience) had a spectacular college record, went to the NFL, and returned to college with his tail tucked between his legs & a bright red “F” stamped on his forehead. College records means nothing when you arrive in the NFL. You start from scratch. |
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 6, 2021 13:51:52 GMT -7
HOW DARE YOU FLIP FLOP TURN AWAY FROM THE JETS EQUIPMENT MANGER AFTER YOU SUBMITTED HIS NAME TO THE CHARGERS !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?Oh 82-9 is a suck record Oh we want more coordinators because of the great success with them we have had so far Oh we are only allowed to spend 51 dollars a week in salary !!!! Nick Saban is / was a fairly successful college coach who had mixed in several years as an NFL assistant, including a stint with Parcells. Saban went back to college with a bright red “F” stamped on his forehead. Steve Spurrier (who like Meyer had zero NFL experience) had a spectacular college record, went to the NFL, and returned to college with his tail tucked between his legs & a bright red “F” stamped on his forehead. College records means nothing when you arrive in the NFL. You start from scratch. Didn't Kelly also get a F stamp?
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Post by jwr10x on Jan 6, 2021 15:35:29 GMT -7
It is also worth remembering that the differences between college programs and the NFL.
Meyer had 70+ players active on game day in college and was able to control his student athletes lives 24/7. He will not have that with today's Professional NFL.
A lot have failed in the NFL due to what worked in college and what you could get away with when dealing with "kids" did not work when dealing with Pros.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 6, 2021 17:20:29 GMT -7
Several college coaches have failed and several have succeeded... To use either argument in a blanket statement is shortsighted IMHO. Urban Meyer is alot different than Steve Spurrier or even Chip Kelly, he is a much better candidate than alot of other names being floated around.
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Post by lightsout42 on Jan 6, 2021 17:24:19 GMT -7
Several college coaches have failed and several have succeeded... To use either argument in a blanket statement is shortsighted IMHO. Urban Meyer is alot different than Steve Spurrier or even Chip Kelly, he is a much better candidate than alot of other names being floated around. More accurately, I think, would be to say: Most college coaches have failed in the NFL, and small few have succeeded. |
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