|
|
Post by chargerfreak on Nov 13, 2019 9:16:47 GMT -7
We have a new big board. All it has is Tackles and Guards on it.
Hit the Easy Button
Well that is certainly one way to address the OL rebuild.....7 picks, 7 OL players. Trade for picks and select 10 OL. We'll get our 5 come hell or high water at that point.
|
|
|
|
Post by boltnut on Nov 13, 2019 18:13:34 GMT -7
Hypothetical OL rebuild... 1) Cut Okung and Pouncey. Save $18.25 mil in cap space. 2) Sign an OG and a RT in FA for less than the 18 mil you saved. Let's say OG Joe Thuney and RT Jack Conklin. 3) Draft an OT and a center in the draft. Let's say OT Alex Leatherwood and OC Creed Humphrey. LT Leatherwood, LG Joe Thuney, OC Creed Humphrey, RG Scott Quessenberry, RT Jack Conklin. Let Lamp, Feeney, Groy, Tevi, Pipkins, and Scott fight for the 3 or 4 depth positions... Because Pouncey isn't going anywhere with his new extension, he stays. You have posted crazy blown up FA releases, which is fine. But remember my Oline "blow up" is really very simple and easy to do.: Draft 2 OL early, sign 2 FA's. I JUST GOT YOU 4 NEW OLINEMEN EASILY Do we even need cap space to do that ? We need the roster space. It doesn't even have to be Okung. Take 4 players off of that crap list you have up there and tack on Michael Schofield too. It should be baby easy to pick the worst 4 out of that group. We don't have to go crazy just to redo the Oline. I am handing you super easy. If you are referring to the Sept.3rd "extension", it looks more like a re-structure to me. Looks like they save $6 mil by cutting him. overthecap.com/player/mike-pouncey/709/There are many OG's scheduled for FA after the season. Joe Thuney is just one option. If the Patriots re-sign Brady (probable), then there won't be a lot left over to re-sign their other FA's (Thuney being one of them) www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/guard/I mentioned Jack Conklin as a possible target because the Titans chose not to exercise his 5th year option... which would have paid him $12mil. If they decide to re-sign him, then their other RT probably won't be resigned (Dennis Kelly). Kelly's pff grade is equal Conklin's. I predict the Titans try to re-sign Kelly as a cheaper re-sign. Either one of the RT's would interest us. Then I mentioned drafting an OC and a LT. That sounds like 2 FA's and 2 draft picks (the same as your plan). I'm not sure why you're "handling" me... Schofield is a FA at season's end. We don't need to add or delete him from any list. I hope we don't re-sign him. I want proven FA signings. No more "hoping" and "waiting" on my part. Our remaining "starters" can fight it out for reserve roles.
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Nov 13, 2019 18:58:07 GMT -7
Because Pouncey isn't going anywhere with his new extension, he stays. You have posted crazy blown up FA releases, which is fine. But remember my Oline "blow up" is really very simple and easy to do.: Draft 2 OL early, sign 2 FA's. I JUST GOT YOU 4 NEW OLINEMEN EASILY Do we even need cap space to do that ? We need the roster space. It doesn't even have to be Okung. Take 4 players off of that crap list you have up there and tack on Michael Schofield too. It should be baby easy to pick the worst 4 out of that group. We don't have to go crazy just to redo the Oline. I am handing you super easy. If you are referring to the Sept.3rd "extension", it looks more like a re-structure to me. Looks like they save $6 mil by cutting him. overthecap.com/player/mike-pouncey/709/There are many OG's scheduled for FA after the season. Joe Thuney is just one option. If the Patriots re-sign Brady (probable), then there won't be a lot left over to re-sign their other FA's (Thuney being one of them) www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/guard/I mentioned Jack Conklin as a possible target because the Titans chose not to exercise his 5th year option... which would have paid him $12mil. If they decide to re-sign him, then their other RT probably won't be resigned (Dennis Kelly). Kelly's pff grade is equal Conklin's. I predict the Titans try to re-sign Kelly as a cheaper re-sign. Either one of the RT's would interest us. Then I mentioned drafting an OC and a LT. That sounds like 2 FA's and 2 draft picks (the same as your plan). I'm not sure why you're "handling" me... Schofield is a FA at season's end. We don't need to add or delete him from any list. I hope we don't re-sign him. I want proven FA signings. No more "hoping" and "waiting" on my part. Our remaining "starters" can fight it out for reserve roles. There will be options in FA to improve from this low level of OL talent, and it would be sweet if rd 1 saw the BPA being an LOT. I think Freak was 'handing' you the easy answer, as opposed to your subconscious desire to be 'handled' by him......
|
|
|
|
Post by boltnut on Nov 13, 2019 20:08:05 GMT -7
If you are referring to the Sept.3rd "extension", it looks more like a re-structure to me. Looks like they save $6 mil by cutting him. overthecap.com/player/mike-pouncey/709/There are many OG's scheduled for FA after the season. Joe Thuney is just one option. If the Patriots re-sign Brady (probable), then there won't be a lot left over to re-sign their other FA's (Thuney being one of them) www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/guard/I mentioned Jack Conklin as a possible target because the Titans chose not to exercise his 5th year option... which would have paid him $12mil. If they decide to re-sign him, then their other RT probably won't be resigned (Dennis Kelly). Kelly's pff grade is equal Conklin's. I predict the Titans try to re-sign Kelly as a cheaper re-sign. Either one of the RT's would interest us. Then I mentioned drafting an OC and a LT. That sounds like 2 FA's and 2 draft picks (the same as your plan). I'm not sure why you're "handling" me... Schofield is a FA at season's end. We don't need to add or delete him from any list. I hope we don't re-sign him. I want proven FA signings. No more "hoping" and "waiting" on my part. Our remaining "starters" can fight it out for reserve roles. There will be options in FA to improve from this low level of OL talent, and it would be sweet if rd 1 saw the BPA being an LOT. I think Freak was 'handing' you the easy answer, as opposed to your subconscious desire to be 'handled' by him...... LOL! Everyone wants to be handled by Freak... BTW, BPA got us Tillery over Greg Little. I see 5-6 OT's that would have a significant impact on our team over any ILB in this draft. If we are picking 10-15, there should be a top-3 OT available.
|
|
|
|
Post by chargerfreak on Nov 14, 2019 4:36:18 GMT -7
There will be options in FA to improve from this low level of OL talent, and it would be sweet if rd 1 saw the BPA being an LOT. I think Freak was 'handing' you the easy answer, as opposed to your subconscious desire to be 'handled' by him...... BTW, BPA got us Tillery over Greg Little. I see 5-6 OT's that would have a significant impact on our team over any ILB in this draft. If we are picking 10-15, there should be a top-3 OT available. Yes. Yes they do.
|
|
|
|
Post by chargerfreak on Nov 14, 2019 4:38:37 GMT -7
Because Pouncey isn't going anywhere with his new extension, he stays. You have posted crazy blown up FA releases, which is fine. But remember my Oline "blow up" is really very simple and easy to do.: Draft 2 OL early, sign 2 FA's. I JUST GOT YOU 4 NEW OLINEMEN EASILY Do we even need cap space to do that ? We need the roster space. It doesn't even have to be Okung. Take 4 players off of that crap list you have up there and tack on Michael Schofield too. It should be baby easy to pick the worst 4 out of that group. We don't have to go crazy just to redo the Oline. I am handing you super easy. If you are referring to the Sept.3rd "extension", it looks more like a re-structure to me. Looks like they save $6 mil by cutting him. overthecap.com/player/mike-pouncey/709/There are many OG's scheduled for FA after the season. Joe Thuney is just one option. If the Patriots re-sign Brady (probable), then there won't be a lot left over to re-sign their other FA's (Thuney being one of them) www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/guard/I mentioned Jack Conklin as a possible target because the Titans chose not to exercise his 5th year option... which would have paid him $12mil. If they decide to re-sign him, then their other RT probably won't be resigned (Dennis Kelly). Kelly's pff grade is equal Conklin's. I predict the Titans try to re-sign Kelly as a cheaper re-sign. Either one of the RT's would interest us. Then I mentioned drafting an OC and a LT. That sounds like 2 FA's and 2 draft picks (the same as your plan). I'm not sure why you're "handling" me... Schofield is a FA at season's end. We don't need to add or delete him from any list. I hope we don't re-sign him. I want proven FA signings. No more "hoping" and "waiting" on my part. Our remaining "starters" can fight it out for reserve roles. Yeah I am with you on Schofield. He is up for a new contract and at today's wages I am not feeling his re-sign.
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Nov 14, 2019 7:21:20 GMT -7
There will be options in FA to improve from this low level of OL talent, and it would be sweet if rd 1 saw the BPA being an LOT. I think Freak was 'handing' you the easy answer, as opposed to your subconscious desire to be 'handled' by him...... LOL! Everyone wants to be handled by Freak... BTW, BPA got us Tillery over Greg Little. I see 5-6 OT's that would have a significant impact on our team over any ILB in this draft. If we are picking 10-15, there should be a top-3 OT available. Way too early to be predicting any runs in the draft......but as always, OT's will be one of those positions that go early and often. I never liked the Tillery pick, and he was not top of my board, as such he would not have been my pick. I think I wanted Taylor OT/ROT.....
|
|
|
|
Post by chargerfreak on Nov 14, 2019 7:26:15 GMT -7
LOL! Everyone wants to be handled by Freak... BTW, BPA got us Tillery over Greg Little. I see 5-6 OT's that would have a significant impact on our team over any ILB in this draft. If we are picking 10-15, there should be a top-3 OT available. Way too early to be predicting any runs in the draft...... but as always, OT's will be one of those positions that go early and often.
I never liked the Tillery pick, and he was not top of my board, as such he would not have been my pick. I think I wanted Taylor OT/ROT..... Thank you Freak for teaching me that, and so much more.
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Nov 14, 2019 8:37:04 GMT -7
Way too early to be predicting any runs in the draft...... but as always, OT's will be one of those positions that go early and often.
I never liked the Tillery pick, and he was not top of my board, as such he would not have been my pick. I think I wanted Taylor OT/ROT..... Thank you Freak for teaching me that, and so much more. I see your fantasies are not limited to leadership positions.
|
|
|
|
Post by lazylightning on Nov 14, 2019 8:57:28 GMT -7
Schofield is a FA at season's end. We don't need to add or delete him from any list. I hope we don't re-sign him. I want proven FA signings. No more "hoping" and "waiting" on my part. Our remaining "starters" can fight it out for reserve roles. Yeah I am with you on Schofield. He is up for a new contract and at today's wages I am not feeling his re-sign. I agree with these views, but I suspect TT will re-sign him. Regardless of how effective he has been, he is a two year starter that knows the system and will be relatively cheap. Now if we get a new O-Line coach all bets are off.
|
|
|
|
Post by chargerfreak on Nov 14, 2019 12:21:29 GMT -7
Thank you Freak for teaching me that, and so much more. I see your fantasies are not limited to leadership positions. Why stop there ? and you are welcome.
|
|
|
|
Post by chargerfreak on Nov 14, 2019 12:22:48 GMT -7
Yeah I am with you on Schofield. He is up for a new contract and at today's wages I am not feeling his re-sign. I agree with these views, but I suspect TT will re-sign him. Regardless of how effective he has been, he is a two year starter that knows the system and will be relatively cheap. Now if we get a new O-Line coach all bets are off. That is EXACTLY the type of thinking that has led us to our disaster. That right there HAS to change.
|
|
|
|
Post by lazylightning on Nov 14, 2019 12:35:48 GMT -7
I agree with these views, but I suspect TT will re-sign him. Regardless of how effective he has been, he is a two year starter that knows the system and will be relatively cheap. Now if we get a new O-Line coach all bets are off. That is EXACTLY the type of thinking that has led us to our disaster. That right there HAS to change. Yep, no argument here. I would rather see TT go than AL. But I bet it will be the other way around when/if the changes are made.
|
|
|
|
Post by boltnut on Nov 14, 2019 20:53:31 GMT -7
The play-calling has sucked for several years. The drafting has sucked (excluding Bosa and DJ) for years. I prefer a change in GM... most of the time, a new GM will bring in a new staff anyways.
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Nov 15, 2019 7:38:45 GMT -7
The play-calling has sucked for several years. The drafting has sucked (excluding Bosa and DJ) for years. I prefer a change in GM... most of the time, a new GM will bring in a new staff anyways. There is plenty more on the plate of a GM than just the draft, and TT has done well in his managing of those aspects. The drafting has been so so, but the misses on OL/DL has really set back the roster build they had going. Flush the coaching staff in its' entirety. Resign Rivers. Make a serious commitment to OL rebuild via FA's and Draft. Pray for health......
|
|
