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Post by sonorajim on Jun 23, 2019 9:42:57 GMT -7
Allegedly bad OL. Based on what, I'm not sure. They met the LAC offense's needs more often than not. I don't care how fabulously gifted the "skill" guys are, you cannot get those stats using the blocking sleds. That said, there is room for improvement. Year 2-3 for this OL unit, particularly but not exclusively the young OL should look better in style points as well as getting the job done as well or better for an improved skill group.
Except TWill, he stunk with the smelliest of linemen. That's fair. The playcalling & offensive execution as an O unit was clearly better than avg, top 10 as a matter of fact. Doing so with no blocking is impossible. Doing it with an OL that had inconsistency at LG & RT was possible, they did it. Just bear in mind that the inconsistency included a lot of great blocks as well as blatantly lousy plays. Improvement by young 2nd-3rd year players isn't unusual. Then there's Lamp, Scott & Pipkins. We got a shot.
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Post by headtrip on Jun 23, 2019 11:11:08 GMT -7
I think saying the line was anything better than below average discredits what the rest of the team did. Except TWill, he stunk with the smelliest of linemen. That's fair. The playcalling & offensive execution as an O unit was clearly better than avg, top 10 as a matter of fact. Doing so with no blocking is impossible. Doing it with an OL that had inconsistency at LG & RT was possible, they did it. Just bear in mind that the inconsistency included a lot of great blocks as well as blatantly lousy plays. Improvement by young 2nd-3rd year players isn't unusual. Then there's Lamp, Scott & Pipkins. We got a shot. I'm fairly optimistic about this year. Could be improvement across the board. Could be Lamp is great. Could be diamonds in the rough. Could be... The Bolts need something to happen or the offense is going to be extremely vulnerable to teams with a great front, even with probowlers at multiple skill positions. |
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 23, 2019 15:37:11 GMT -7
Is it a fool's game to do that, or a fool's game to be duped into believing I really feel that way and take it SO seriously ? Lighten up. Buy a Sioux Falls t-shirt or something. Sheesh o man. Who? in their right mind, can ever take Freak seriously? Wouldn't be anyone from Canada...could it? Not me....I love Freak and his goofy 'football takes'.....did that for the SilentMod that Freak so loves.
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 23, 2019 16:31:54 GMT -7
Who? in their right mind, can ever take Freak seriously? Wouldn't be anyone from Canada...could it?Not me....I love Freak and his goofy 'football takes'.....did that for the SilentMod that Freak so loves. Yeah. Freak loves CT.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 23, 2019 20:14:19 GMT -7
That's fair. The playcalling & offensive execution as an O unit was clearly better than avg, top 10 as a matter of fact. Doing so with no blocking is impossible. Doing it with an OL that had inconsistency at LG & RT was possible, they did it. Just bear in mind that the inconsistency included a lot of great blocks as well as blatantly lousy plays. Improvement by young 2nd-3rd year players isn't unusual. Then there's Lamp, Scott & Pipkins. We got a shot. I'm fairly optimistic about this year. Could be improvement across the board. Could be Lamp is great. Could be diamonds in the rough. Could be... The Bolts need something to happen or the offense is going to be extremely vulnerable to teams with a great front, even with probowlers at multiple skill positions. The OL didn't get mauled until Dec 22 & again at NE in the playoffs. They wore down and the D was struggling. The offense will benefit from a solid punter & return game on 'teams. More consistent punts forced, takeaways on D. Getting Henry back is a big deal. 4 deep in RBs, check. Finishsing strong in Dec - Feb will be the key.
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Post by moekid on Jun 23, 2019 22:50:31 GMT -7
It’s in the bag people
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 24, 2019 8:20:24 GMT -7
Not me....I love Freak and his goofy 'football takes'.....did that for the SilentMod that Freak so loves. Yeah. Freak loves CT. Freak loves all........
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 24, 2019 8:32:29 GMT -7
I'm fairly optimistic about this year. Could be improvement across the board. Could be Lamp is great. Could be diamonds in the rough. Could be... The Bolts need something to happen or the offense is going to be extremely vulnerable to teams with a great front, even with probowlers at multiple skill positions. The OL didn't get mauled until Dec 22 & again at NE in the playoffs. They wore down and the D was struggling. The offense will benefit from a solid punter & return game on 'teams. More consistent punts forced, takeaways on D. Getting Henry back is a big deal. 4 deep in RBs, check. Finishsing strong in Dec - Feb will be the key. It isn't about 'getting mauled' per se, well getting mauled isn't good, but it is about being 'good enough'.... I would say the OL is 'good enough' to accomplish the goal of getting into the PO's, if they stay healthy. The question, or concern, is are they 'good enough' to go far in the PO's.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 24, 2019 10:19:56 GMT -7
The OL didn't get mauled until Dec 22 & again at NE in the playoffs. They wore down and the D was struggling. The offense will benefit from a solid punter & return game on 'teams. More consistent punts forced, takeaways on D. Getting Henry back is a big deal. 4 deep in RBs, check. Finishsing strong in Dec - Feb will be the key. It isn't about 'getting mauled' per se, well getting mauled isn't good, but it is about being 'good enough'.... I would say the OL is 'good enough' to accomplish the goal of getting into the PO's, if they stay healthy. The question, or concern, is are they 'good enough' to go far in the PO's. Getting home field and a bye makes a big difference in that regard. They fell one win short of that goal in 2018 even though they tied for the best record in the conference. It will behoove them to secure that advantage in 2019. |
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 24, 2019 11:45:03 GMT -7
It isn't about 'getting mauled' per se, well getting mauled isn't good, but it is about being 'good enough'.... I would say the OL is 'good enough' to accomplish the goal of getting into the PO's, if they stay healthy. The question, or concern, is are they 'good enough' to go far in the PO's. Getting home field and a bye makes a big difference in that regard. They fell one win short of that goal in 2018 even though they tied for the best record in the conference. It will behoove them to secure that advantage in 2019. The easiest path is always the preferred path, but it is not the only path. Play them as they come, and play until they send you home or hand you the trophy.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 25, 2019 10:12:25 GMT -7
The OL didn't get mauled until Dec 22 & again at NE in the playoffs. They wore down and the D was struggling. The offense will benefit from a solid punter & return game on 'teams. More consistent punts forced, takeaways on D. Getting Henry back is a big deal. 4 deep in RBs, check. Finishsing strong in Dec - Feb will be the key. It isn't about 'getting mauled' per se, well getting mauled isn't good, but it is about being 'good enough'.... I would say the OL is 'good enough' to accomplish the goal of getting into the PO's, if they stay healthy. The question, or concern, is are they 'good enough' to go far in the PO's. Are they today? There is no definitive answer in June. Winning in the playoffs will depend on the young players stepping up, playing well and improving. This training camp, the scrimmages vs NO & LAR & preseason contests is an opportunity for building OL & depth that must be seized. I believe that we have adequate quality in personnel but that the coaches & men have work ahead. Building individually and more importantly as a OL unit starts in TC but must continue until season's end. A lot of that will depend on Lynn, Whiz & Meyer, not only to teach but to learn & best utilize what we have on OL & the total offense. There's definitely a chance to be very successful but it will take a lot of work & some luck to boot. It's a project that starts in a few weeks & the results in Dec-Feb TBD.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 25, 2019 10:41:58 GMT -7
It isn't about 'getting mauled' per se, well getting mauled isn't good, but it is about being 'good enough'.... I would say the OL is 'good enough' to accomplish the goal of getting into the PO's, if they stay healthy. The question, or concern, is are they 'good enough' to go far in the PO's. Are they today? There is no definitive answer in June. Winning in the playoffs will depend on the young players stepping up, playing well and improving. This training camp, the scrimmages vs NO & LAR & preseason contests is an opportunity for building OL & depth that must be seized. I believe that we have adequate quality in personnel but that the coaches & men have work ahead. Building individually and more importantly as a OL unit starts in TC but must continue until season's end. A lot of that will depend on Lynn, Whiz & Meyer, not only to teach but to learn & best utilize what we have on OL & the total offense. There's definitely a chance to be very successful but it will take a lot of work & some luck to boot. It's a project that starts in a few weeks & the results in Dec-Feb TBD. Unfortunately, the early off season is exactly when definitive answers to tough questions must be determined by TT and staff. I believe TT and staff are well aware of the shortcomings of this OL group, but knowing and addressing are two different steps. Getting a top LOT via FA would be very expensive, and FA is always a huge risk. Going the trade route would be equally expensive, and probably an even bigger disruption to the build than it is worth. So TT drafts a LOT prospect, and throws the dice another year on Okung......and that is only the LOT position. The Bolts have needs in other OL spots, biggest is probably ROT, but OG as well. So here we are, waiting patiently for TC2019, and hoping that pretty much everything your post said happens.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 25, 2019 18:19:55 GMT -7
Are they today? There is no definitive answer in June. Winning in the playoffs will depend on the young players stepping up, playing well and improving. This training camp, the scrimmages vs NO & LAR & preseason contests is an opportunity for building OL & depth that must be seized. I believe that we have adequate quality in personnel but that the coaches & men have work ahead. Building individually and more importantly as a OL unit starts in TC but must continue until season's end. A lot of that will depend on Lynn, Whiz & Meyer, not only to teach but to learn & best utilize what we have on OL & the total offense. There's definitely a chance to be very successful but it will take a lot of work & some luck to boot. It's a project that starts in a few weeks & the results in Dec-Feb TBD. Unfortunately, the early off season is exactly when definitive answers to tough questions must be determined by TT and staff. I believe TT and staff are well aware of the shortcomings of this OL group, but knowing and addressing are two different steps. Getting a top LOT via FA would be very expensive, and FA is always a huge risk. Going the trade route would be equally expensive, and probably an even bigger disruption to the build than it is worth. So TT drafts a LOT prospect, and throws the dice another year on Okung......and that is only the LOT position. The Bolts have needs in other OL spots, biggest is probably ROT, but OG as well. So here we are, waiting patiently for TC2019, and hoping that pretty much everything your post said happens. We've signed "definitive answer" FAs that turned out to be a disaster in the past. At least we dodged that pitfall. 
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 25, 2019 21:50:38 GMT -7
Unfortunately, the early off season is exactly when definitive answers to tough questions must be determined by TT and staff. I believe TT and staff are well aware of the shortcomings of this OL group, but knowing and addressing are two different steps. Getting a top LOT via FA would be very expensive, and FA is always a huge risk. Going the trade route would be equally expensive, and probably an even bigger disruption to the build than it is worth. So TT drafts a LOT prospect, and throws the dice another year on Okung......and that is only the LOT position. The Bolts have needs in other OL spots, biggest is probably ROT, but OG as well. So here we are, waiting patiently for TC2019, and hoping that pretty much everything your post said happens. We've signed "definitive answer" FAs that turned out to be a disaster in the past. At least we dodged that pitfall. Unfortunately the Bolts have also dodged the successful drafting of OL players......that needs to change or there will be no Super Bowl.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 26, 2019 3:42:30 GMT -7
Not me....I love Freak and his goofy 'football takes'.....did that for the SilentMod that Freak so loves. Yeah. Freak loves CT. We always yearn for that which we cannot see.
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