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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 24, 2019 3:20:56 GMT -7
Yes.....It may be like last year when the entire forum said Scott over Davis, and I was the only one that said I like Davis more. The team naturally went with Davis. We'll have to see how it all plays out this year, but if you want YPC, Davis has the edge. You're re-writing history if you say Davis beat out Scot. Scot was on IR. I think it was obvious prior to his injury that Scot was ahead of Davis. Heck, even AL said he had already penciled in Scot. Scot runs great routs, makes quick cuts and gets open. Davis should beat out Scot this year because he has a years experience now. No. Its isn't obvious at all. What is obvious is that Davis made the team. The coach is going to say good things about any player competing on his team.
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Post by Chargeroo on Jun 24, 2019 6:33:17 GMT -7
You're re-writing history if you say Davis beat out Scot. Scot was on IR. I think it was obvious prior to his injury that Scot was ahead of Davis. Heck, even AL said he had already penciled in Scot. Scot runs great routs, makes quick cuts and gets open. Davis should beat out Scot this year because he has a years experience now. No. Its isn't obvious at all. What is obvious is that Davis made the team. The coach is going to say good things about any player competing on his team. There is much that you miss out on. Things go sailing right over your head.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 24, 2019 7:48:08 GMT -7
So that's the only reason Davis won out ? You are locking in Scott right now ? I'm locking in an open competition for #4-5 WR. Scott has earned some recognition but there will be a lot of snaps in TC-preseason that someone can open the coaches eyes with.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 24, 2019 8:38:36 GMT -7
So that's the only reason Davis won out ? You are locking in Scott right now ? I'm locking in an open competition for #4-5 WR. Scott has earned some recognition but there will be a lot of snaps in TC-preseason that someone can open the coaches eyes with. I am not so certain that TB sees a huge uptick in plays, as both Davis and Scott have the ability to do what TW was asked to do. Cantrell is another that might surprise in TC2019..... Number's 1 and 2 WR is pretty settled, after that it gets interesting......
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 24, 2019 10:13:30 GMT -7
I'm locking in an open competition for #4-5 WR. Scott has earned some recognition but there will be a lot of snaps in TC-preseason that someone can open the coaches eyes with. I am not so certain that TB sees a huge uptick in plays, as both Davis and Scott have the ability to do what TW was asked to do. Cantrell is another that might surprise in TC2019..... Number's 1 and 2 WR is pretty settled, after that it gets interesting...... Not only is that factually incorrect, its borderline delusional.
He has not shown that in the NFL, nor much of anything else.
They are completely different styled WR's.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 24, 2019 10:14:39 GMT -7
No. Its isn't obvious at all. What is obvious is that Davis made the team. The coach is going to say good things about any player competing on his team. There is much that you miss out on. Things go sailing right over your head. That's a bad thing, right ?
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 24, 2019 10:26:58 GMT -7
I am not so certain that TB sees a huge uptick in plays, as both Davis and Scott have the ability to do what TW was asked to do. Cantrell is another that might surprise in TC2019..... Number's 1 and 2 WR is pretty settled, after that it gets interesting...... Not only is that factually incorrect, its borderline delusional.
He has not shown that in the NFL, nor much of anything else.
They are completely different styled WR's.
I can tell you from first hand experience that you are missing a lot (in fact, most of what the coaching staff focuses on) if your only evaluation tool was watch preseason games where they were both playing with and against backups. The all-time leader in receptions at Clemson (I remember hearing somebody tell me at one time that experience is vital for NFL success) had a roster spot locked up based on his summer-long performance, including a couple of very impressive practice sessions against the Saints.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 24, 2019 11:41:31 GMT -7
I am not so certain that TB sees a huge uptick in plays, as both Davis and Scott have the ability to do what TW was asked to do. Cantrell is another that might surprise in TC2019..... Number's 1 and 2 WR is pretty settled, after that it gets interesting...... Not only is that factually incorrect, its borderline delusional.
He has not shown that in the NFL, nor much of anything else.
They are completely different styled WR's.
So you are saying that Scott, Davis and Cantrell all lack the ability to play WR in the NFL ? and do it at a level that is commensurate with the production from TW. Who cares about their 'style' being different, all that will matter is being productive when asked to be so. The offence will evolve as it incorporates new talent. So simple, even a fantasy emperor can understand it.......
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 24, 2019 13:49:57 GMT -7
Not only is that factually incorrect, its borderline delusional.
He has not shown that in the NFL, nor much of anything else.
They are completely different styled WR's.
I can tell you from first hand experience that you are missing a lot (in fact, most of what the coaching staff focuses on) if your only evaluation tool was watch preseason games where they were both playing with and against backups. The all-time leader in receptions at Clemson (I remember hearing somebody tell me at one time that experience is vital for NFL success) had a roster spot locked up based on his summer-long performance, including a couple of very impressive practice sessions against the Saints. Well, that body of impressive resume ain't getting him 11 million dollar contracts anytime this week, I promise. Listing his high school stats ain't either.
But to my bigger point, isn't he more of a possession WR versus take the top off the defense, long ball, 16,3 YPC career guy ?
Nevermind. He is. Averaged 10 YPC at Clemson.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 24, 2019 13:55:30 GMT -7
Not only is that factually incorrect, its borderline delusional.
He has not shown that in the NFL, nor much of anything else.
They are completely different styled WR's.
So you are saying that Scott, Davis and Cantrell all lack the ability to play WR in the NFL ? and do it at a level that is commensurate with the production from TW. Who cares about their 'style' being different, all that will matter is being productive when asked to be so. The offence will evolve as it incorporates new talent. So simple, even a fantasy emperor can understand it....... HA. Boy I must have really tied you up. When did I ever say that, or no I never said that.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 24, 2019 15:00:11 GMT -7
So you are saying that Scott, Davis and Cantrell all lack the ability to play WR in the NFL ? and do it at a level that is commensurate with the production from TW. Who cares about their 'style' being different, all that will matter is being productive when asked to be so. The offence will evolve as it incorporates new talent. So simple, even a fantasy emperor can understand it....... HA. Boy I must have really tied you up. When did I ever say that, or no I never said that. I know you didn't say that, but I am trying to get you to say that. Regardless, TW is gone and the roster has plenty of talented WR's to find the replacement from. Complimentary WR's are a dime a dozen, eh......
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Post by Chargeroo on Jun 24, 2019 18:03:44 GMT -7
This will be the 5th year in the league for Davis and he has yet to make a catch in the league - www.chargers.com/team/players-roster/geremy-davis/careerThat's not a great resume' - additionally, he's 27 years old compared to 22/23 for the other WR's in the running. And he's from UConn - a basketball school.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 24, 2019 19:16:43 GMT -7
This will be the 5th year in the league for Davis and he has yet to make a catch in the league - www.chargers.com/team/players-roster/geremy-davis/careerThat's not a great resume' - additionally, he's 27 years old compared to 22/23 for the other WR's in the running. And he's from UConn - a basketball school. 27 is a nice age to win your first Super Bowl........
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 24, 2019 20:07:06 GMT -7
This will be the 5th year in the league for Davis and he has yet to make a catch in the league - www.chargers.com/team/players-roster/geremy-davis/careerThat's not a great resume' - additionally, he's 27 years old compared to 22/23 for the other WR's in the running. And he's from UConn - a basketball school. Gates was a BB player.....
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 25, 2019 2:25:20 GMT -7
This will be the 5th year in the league for Davis and he has yet to make a catch in the league - www.chargers.com/team/players-roster/geremy-davis/careerThat's not a great resume' - additionally, he's 27 years old compared to 22/23 for the other WR's in the running. And he's from UConn - a basketball school. I'm not pimping Davis for anything. I liked him slightly better last year, and he made the team. That's it. The main point, that none of you have solved let alone recognized, is long ball Williams and his take the top off a defense 16.3 YPC career numbers isn't just replaced with unproven's and a magic wand. Do I think its the end of the world, no. But you are letting blind homerism guide you to pretend it isn't an issue. The staff and Whiz have to find a way. It's their job.
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