James to Have Surgery on Foot

[joemcrugby]

Jeez, what have I wrought with my presence yesterday! Hopefully significant means the rest of the offseason. He looked fine picking off the deflection late in yesterday’s practice.

Standout Chargers safety Derwin James was not practicing Friday and had a boot on his right foot.

James will be out a significant amount of time, but how much remains to be determined, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per a source.

James injured his foot Thursday.

Around The NFL will have more on this developing story shortly.

www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001041919/article/chargers-derwin-james-out-for-significant-time

[chargerfreak]

Aug 16, 2019 11:16:58 GMT -7 joemcrugby said:

Jeez, what have I wrought with my presence yesterday! Hopefully significant means the rest of the offseason. He looked fine picking off the deflection late in yesterday’s practice.

Standout Chargers safety Derwin James was not practicing Friday and had a boot on his right foot.

James will be out a significant amount of time, but how much remains to be determined, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per a source.

James injured his foot Thursday.

Around The NFL will have more on this developing story shortly.

www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001041919/article/chargers-derwin-james-out-for-significant-time

O-M-G

[joemcrugby]

[joemcrugby]

Ugggggggghhh!!!

The fifth metatarsal is the bone on the outside of the midfoot at the base of the small toe. The proximal end of the fifth metatarsal (proximal means closer to the center of the body) is easily felt as the bump over the outside part of the midfoot. This part of the fifth metatarsal bone is prone to injury.

The fifth metatarsal is the most commonly fractured of all the metatarsal bones.

Three primary types of fractures occur in the proximal fifth metatarsal, and all have different treatment implications. Like all other medical issues, not every fracture will fall perfectly into one of these three fracture types, but these categories are useful for treatment guidance.

Avulsion Fractures
Avulsion fractures, sometimes called a pseudo-Jones fracture, when the tip of the bone is pulled off the fifth metatarsal by the tendon that attaches to this region.

Avulsion fractures tend to heal easily, and seldom require surgical treatment.

Most often these injuries can be treated similarly to a ligament or tendon injury. Usually, a stiff-soled shoe, such as a cast shoe, is worn for a few weeks until the pain and swelling have subsided. Full healing takes 6-8 weeks.

www.verywellhealth.com/fifth-metatarsal-fractures-2548666

[joemcrugby]

Sigh!!!!!

I guess that we can be somewhat grateful that it isn’t a lisfranc.

Sounds like availability will be somewhere between Week 4 to Week 6 given that it’s a hairline.

[chargerfreak]

Time to start the NFL's only ALL PRO Special Teamer !!!!

[moekid]

We’re cursed. That’s all

[abild]

4 to 6 weeks. We can survive that. But I am just so afraid that it will linger on.
Ugh, not the best news to get before bedtime.

[xenos]

Daniel Popper on potential timelines for Derwin James’ return, and how the Chargers might replace him:

theathletic.com/1143453/2019/08/16/potential-timelines-for-derwin-james-return-and-how-the-chargers-might-replace-him/

COSA MESA, Calif. – Derwin James closed out the Chargers’ joint practice with the Saints on Thursday by intercepting a deflected Drew Brees pass during a two-minute drill. James then rose from the turf, dropped the ball and joined up with his fellow defensive backs. The group ran the length of the field together to the near end zone, where they posed and celebrated in front of a video camera. Desmond King did a somersault.

James was not limping as he jogged joyfully with the Jack Boyz. So it was surprising when he arrived at practice Friday, less than 24 hours later, with a sizable gray walking boot on his lower right leg that extended up near his knee. And it was even more surprising when the Chargers announced the diagnosis: James had suffered a stress fracture in the fifth metatarsal in his right foot.

“He will continue to be evaluated,” the Chargers wrote in a statement, “and the course of treatment is still to be determined.”

Let’s state the obvious: This is an enormous loss for the Chargers. James is a bona fide leader on defense and more importantly, he’s one of the best safeties in the league. James is irreplaceable. The Chargers have depth at safety and can manage to stay afloat while James is sidelined, but their aspirations of becoming the best defense in the NFL took a serious blow with the news of the injury.

Now for the less obvious: Exactly how long will James be out? Anthony Lynn opted not to speculate publicly Friday and said there is no timetable for James’ return – though he didn’t rule out surgery or James potentially starting the season on injured reserve.

If James starts the season on IR, he would have to miss at least the first eight games. So that decision will hinge mostly on how severe this injury is.

Dr. Ken Jung, a foot and ankle orthopedic specialist at the Cedars-Sinai Kerlan-Jobe Institute who has consulted for the Ducks, Lakers, Dodgers, Kings and Sparks, offered some insight on the nature of stress fractures in the fifth metatarsal, a bone on the outside middle of the foot.

If a fracture occurs in a specific area of the fifth metatarsal, between the base and the middle part of the bone, it is referred to as a Jones fracture. This is worst-case scenario for James.

“If it’s in that particular area, the blood flow is not that great,” Jung said. “So we’ll typically recommend surgery to fix it, especially with high-level athletes, to get them back quicker, as well as to stabilize the bone and reduce the chance of stress developing in that area going forward.”

Jung said the surgery would effectively entail inserting some sort of hardware into the bone to fortify it. The recovery for this surgery is usually six to eight weeks, according to Jung, but that all depends on the severity of the fracture.

If the bone shows signs of stress but isn’t technically cracked, then James potentially could resume physical activity in two to four weeks and return to game action in closer to six weeks, Jung said. But in cases when the Jones fracture is worse, Jung said he’s seen recovery take anywhere from 10 to 12 weeks.

“It’s got a name because it’s notorious for not healing well without surgery,” Jung said. “That’s why we’re more aggressive on taking care of those with surgery.”

The Chargers did not specify if James is dealing with a Jones fracture. So it’s possible the fracture is a different area of the fifth metatarsal where blood flow is better. This would be the best-case scenario for James.

If James is not dealing with a Jones fracture, he has a better chance of avoiding surgery and could be looking at a recovery time of minimum four to six weeks, according to Jung.

Lynn said the injury “came to a head” sometime during Thursday’s practice. “It just happened kind of slowly,” he added. James likely was dealing with some sort of stress reaction in the foot over recent days or weeks, and a wrong step triggered the fracture.

“It’s usually cumulative,” Jung said. “You can have a stress reaction where the bones are weaker…and then you push off and then the bone breaks.”

Jung said James would be better off making a decision on surgery sooner than later.

“Usually with these athletes, you’re trying to decide quickly so you can shorten that window,” Jung said. “If it is a recovery to come back to play in six to eight weeks, you shorten that window by getting the surgery done quicker.”

In the meantime, Adrian Phillips will replace James as the Chargers’ starting strong safety. He played with the first team at that spot in base packages during Friday’s practice.

Both Lynn and defensive backs coach Ron Milus said Rayshawn Jenkins, the Chargers’s starting free safety, has the capability to move to strong safety if necessary.

“But I love what he’s done with his body,” Lynn said of Jenkins. “He’s lost weight. He’s doing a heck of a job at free safety. So I’m not sure if I necessarily want to make two moves right now.”

Behind Phillips, the Chargers have rookie Nasir Adderley and veteran Jaylen Watkins. Adderley has sat out multiple weeks with a hamstring injury and Watkins is coming off a torn ACL he suffered last preseason. Both could fill in at free safety if the Chargers opt to move Jenkins to strong safety.

It’s also worth mentioning that Phillips will still play dime backer in that personnel package. And in those instances, the Chargers will need to find someone else to play strong safety – likely Jenkins, with Watkins or Adderley playing free safety.

“At the end of the day, we’ve got guys that are going to be able to go out and perform,” Milus said.

Added Lynn: “It doesn’t matter how much effort you put into saving guys and keeping guys fresh and healthy. It’s football, and things are going to happen. We’re a team, and we’ll overcome it as a team.”

[totallybolted]

Saw a ticker that said KA is also nursing a knee and ankle injury

[frozendisc]

Losing James is huge, and while there are competent reserves, they are not James.

We saw how ugly a foot injury can be with previous Bolt players. Praying this is the least it can be.

[NoMoreChillies]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[chargerfreak]

Aug 16, 2019 19:54:53 GMT -7 frozendisc said:

Losing James is huge, and while there are competent reserves, they are not James.

We saw how ugly a foot injury can be with previous Bolt players. Praying this is the least it can be.

Goalie says: "We have depth. We are fine with J. Jackson, Ekeler, and Pope. TT doesn't have to do anything James is under contract. TT has plenty of horses in the corral. Blah blah blooey."

Wait. Which Pro Bowler are you discussing again ? Oh how I laugh at the hypocrisy. 


FLAME ME RIGHT NOW FOR EXPOSING ALL BIASES ON HERE !!!!!! FLAME FLAME FLAME

[chargerfreak]

Ok. Here comes my good with the bad: We'll do the baddie first.

From Adderley I have seen flapping rookie lips, and a "hamstring" injury that has lasted about 51 months. Watkins I didn't like the signing the day it happened. You got to do something baby ! If you are taking up a roster spot on a playoff team, then its time to contribute. Help your unit for heavens sake.

Half baddie: I fear they had Jenkins lose weight to compete for free safety. Whoopsie, we need strong safety help.

The good: Heaven bless our Phillips and Jenkins. Our late 2018 hero's are called to duty once more. So proud.

[frozendisc]

Aug 17, 2019 4:19:41 GMT -7 chargerfreak said:

Aug 16, 2019 19:54:53 GMT -7 frozendisc said:

Losing James is huge, and while there are competent reserves, they are not James.

We saw how ugly a foot injury can be with previous Bolt players. Praying this is the least it can be.

Goalie says: "We have depth. We are fine with J. Jackson, Ekeler, and Pope. TT doesn't have to do anything James is under contract. TT has plenty of horses in the corral. Blah blah blooey."

Wait. Which Pro Bowler are you discussing again ? Oh how I laugh at the hypocrisy. 


FLAME ME RIGHT NOW FOR EXPOSING ALL BIASES ON HERE !!!!!! FLAME FLAME FLAME

At least you are consistent in how you twist things.......

I have said many times, having Gordon is the preference.......

Losing James is a much bigger deal than losing Gordon, and it actually isn't even close.