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Post by frozendisc on Mar 2, 2019 9:19:25 GMT -7
My proposed trade above, while quite whimsical, would cover all things well. Rosen would sit ala Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes. He would be ready, with the 5th year club option, for a new contract, right when PR retires. Our giving up a round 1,2,4 & Forrest Lamp would be countered by still getting two 2's and a 3. We could still address the specific needs of "...the most complete team in the NFL," while setting ourselves up to have Phil's successor in place, and plenty of working capital to build a team around Josh Rosen. Your proposal is actually two trades, or more......regardless, not a bit about it I like.
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Post by topcat on Mar 2, 2019 9:20:00 GMT -7
Wow, that's a lot to give up, Wood. And I'd at least like to see how Lamp does with a full TC and healthy. I'd hate to deal him away and he plays solid for someone else... Are you saying Lamp is not a bust...cool. Otherwise, I am sure you are seeing DTs, ORTs and LBs, all three, in the mid rounds. Rounds 5,6,7 we can get your funky DBs. I'm saying Lamp is in a similar situation to Mike Williams two years ago...Williams, after rehabbing from his injury, played some, but didn't exactly light it up. There were a lot of people who thought Williams was also a bust. Then, last year, he had his breakout year, #4 in the league in TD's for a wideout. We need to at least give Lamp a full year to prove himself. Good O-linemen don't grow on trees, and I'd hate to let Lamp get away and he is a solid starter for someone else.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 2, 2019 9:23:21 GMT -7
Are you saying Lamp is not a bust...cool. Otherwise, I am sure you are seeing DTs, ORTs and LBs, all three, in the mid rounds. Rounds 5,6,7 we can get your funky DBs. I'm saying Lamp is in a similar situation to Mike Williams two years ago...Williams, after rehabbing from his injury, played some, but didn't exactly light it up. There were a lot of people who thought Williams was also a bust. Then, last year, he had his breakout year, #4 in the league in TD's for a wideout. We need to at least give Lamp a full year to prove himself. Good O-linemen don't grow on trees, and I'd hate to let Lamp get away and he is a solid starter for someone else. This draft is particularly deep at IOL, all of whom have NFL experience essentially equal to Lamp. And cat, as I type this Josh Oliver is killing it in Indy.
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Post by diehardcharge on Mar 2, 2019 9:45:28 GMT -7
Give Lamp some play time in the starting lineup. Coaching staff said that Schofield did well and they couldn't take him out because of that. I feel that they should have played Lamp more to see more on him. Real game-day experience is needed. Then we can make a call on what to do with him.
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Post by lvboltfan on Mar 2, 2019 9:48:53 GMT -7
I think the coaches value experience much more than the fans. Why else would they replace the punter with someone like Jones? Barksdale was the starter until he got hurt. Tevi took over and never looked back. Maybe the combination of Tevi and Lamp was not a good fit.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 2, 2019 9:50:30 GMT -7
Anthony Lynn still likes Cardale Jones - "Cardale’s doing all the things he needs to be doing to be an NFL starting quarterback. He has a tremendous skillset. And finally his life has some stability. For the first time in his life, he’s been in the same system in back to back years. So, we’re expecting Cardale to take that next step this year, and we’ll see if he can be the quarterback of the future. We’re going to find out."
They seriously need to tell Lynn "As far as we are concerned, you were the coach of the year ! And another thing, you will have nothing to do with QB selection here. Thanks. Here, have a doughnut." ............Cardale Freakin Jones. Sheesh o man already. This is the greatest post of the new CMB yet.
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Post by topcat on Mar 2, 2019 9:51:43 GMT -7
I'm saying Lamp is in a similar situation to Mike Williams two years ago...Williams, after rehabbing from his injury, played some, but didn't exactly light it up. There were a lot of people who thought Williams was also a bust. Then, last year, he had his breakout year, #4 in the league in TD's for a wideout. We need to at least give Lamp a full year to prove himself. Good O-linemen don't grow on trees, and I'd hate to let Lamp get away and he is a solid starter for someone else. This draft is particularly deep at IOL, all of whom have NFL experience essentially equal to Lamp. And cat, as I type this Josh Oliver is killing it in Indy. Wood, you were the biggest one on the pre-draft Lamp bandwagon, and I agreed with you. Why not give him at least one more "prove it" year, kind of like Mike Williams?
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 2, 2019 9:54:00 GMT -7
What are you willing to give up for Rosen. Forest Lamp, #28, #60 & # 130 for Josh Rosen and #33. #33 (first pick day 2) can be traded for a late two and a three. We would still have three of the top 100 picks, to be used to address ORT, DT, and LB. It makes sense, given this drafts depth at our positions of need. Rosen would be ready to go, and due for a new, long term contract, right when Rivers retires. Holy trenches Batman, Disc is now getting his boots licked too!
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 2, 2019 10:01:13 GMT -7
This draft is particularly deep at IOL, all of whom have NFL experience essentially equal to Lamp. And cat, as I type this Josh Oliver is killing it in Indy. Wood, you were the biggest one on the pre-draft Lamp bandwagon, and I agreed with you. Why not give him at least one more "prove it" year, kind of like Mike Williams? It is a fantasy trade, one that would never happen, for a bunch of reasons. The Lamp/MW comparison is disingenuous, as MW actually made it on the field, a bunch. Lamp can't get on the field even with poor play from those standing in his way. Lamp gets 2019 TC, make it or bye bye.....
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Post by topcat on Mar 2, 2019 10:12:22 GMT -7
Wood, you were the biggest one on the pre-draft Lamp bandwagon, and I agreed with you. Why not give him at least one more "prove it" year, kind of like Mike Williams? It is a fantasy trade, one that would never happen, for a bunch of reasons. The Lamp/MW comparison is disingenuous, as MW actually made it on the field, a bunch. Lamp can't get on the field even with poor play from those standing in his way. Lamp gets 2019 TC, make it or bye bye..... If Lamp gets beat out by Tevi, Schofield or Feeney in TC, then I would say he's a bust...
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 2, 2019 10:15:52 GMT -7
It is a fantasy trade, one that would never happen, for a bunch of reasons. The Lamp/MW comparison is disingenuous, as MW actually made it on the field, a bunch. Lamp can't get on the field even with poor play from those standing in his way. Lamp gets 2019 TC, make it or bye bye..... If Lamp gets beat out by Tevi, Schofield or Feeney in TC, then I would say he's a bust... With all the acclaim Lamp had coming into the league, if he isn't a starter he is a bust pick.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 2, 2019 10:34:31 GMT -7
This draft is particularly deep at IOL, all of whom have NFL experience essentially equal to Lamp. And cat, as I type this Josh Oliver is killing it in Indy. Wood, you were the biggest one on the pre-draft Lamp bandwagon, and I agreed with you. Why not give him at least one more "prove it" year, kind of like Mike Williams? I am trading for Rosen. That is the key piece. Very accurate. Some mobility.
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Post by jwr10x on Mar 2, 2019 12:12:57 GMT -7
I would pass on Rosen for I really don't see him being clipboard holder for the final 2-3 years Rivers is the starter.
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Post by ltocbolts on Mar 2, 2019 12:51:00 GMT -7
I am trading for Rosen. That is the key piece. Very accurate. Some mobility. After the QB workouts today, the proverbial "they" on TV said that according to the FO folks they had talked to, Rosen would be the #2 QB in the current draft -- ahead of all but Murray (for those teams that are fans of Murray).
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Post by jachba on Mar 2, 2019 13:41:30 GMT -7
The question is this. Do the Chargers see Rosen as a franchise QB? If the answer is a definite yes, trade for him. If it isn't, tread carefully.
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