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Post by totallybolted on Jul 11, 2020 11:59:57 GMT -7
At this point I hope they skip 2020 and stay healthy until there’s a vaccine. Also, the millions of fans. What if the vaccine is only 40 to 60% effective? We're making some very drastic life changes for a virus that we'll likely never be able to fully control and a majority of people recover from. All vaccines are just that. 40 to 60% effective. Why else do they need to keep remaking them in different forms? there will be no vaccine this year IMO. I believe in herd immunity.
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Post by BleuMoon on Jul 11, 2020 16:03:19 GMT -7
This team can easily go 0-16 this year, easily. We MAY get one divisional win vs the Raiders. After that? Miami maybe? Jets? Are we looking at a TWO or THREE WIN team? I’d be interested to hear what other matchups on this years schedule look favorable for the Bolts. I’ve been a fan for 40+ years and I’ve never dreaded going into a season like I am this year. Expect 4 wins and here is the explanation: I'll be bold and say they play a shortened season like in 1982. That's a total of 9 games (excluding pre-season and playoffs). Chargers season will begin Sunday, November 1st. 1. W - Jags 2. W - Raiders 3. --bye-- 4. L - Broncos 5. W - Bills 6. L - Patriots 7. L - Falcons 8. L - Raiders 9. W - Broncos 10. L - KC I wanted to change a couple of those L's into W's, but that's being a homer. Final Record 4 wins, 5 losses. Playoffs...playoffs?!?
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 11, 2020 16:06:53 GMT -7
What if the vaccine is only 40 to 60% effective? We're making some very drastic life changes for a virus that we'll likely never be able to fully control and a majority of people recover from. All vaccines are just that. 40 to 60% effective. Why else do they need to keep remaking them in different forms? there will be no vaccine this year IMO. I believe in herd immunity. I agree that there won't be a vaccine this year and that rushing a vaccine will result in a much lower effective rate initially, but 40-60% effective? The MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella. Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps (from CDC). As of now, there is no confirmation that anybody who has been infected with COVID-19 and has recovered is immune to future infections (i.e., is immune to COVID-19). Another wrench being thrown into the mix is that the COVID virus is attacking other body organs / functions other than the lungs, and there is no way of telling yet regarding long-term effects on the body after a person has contracted and recovered from the virus. If the US is depending upon herd immunity alone to battle the novel virus, the 2021 season may be in jeopardy as well. Gaining herd immunity from a highly contagious disease will almost certainly require a proven and effective vaccine whenever that is developed. It's sad how this isn't nearly as big of an issue in most places on the planet. New Zealand locked down the country for three months (much to the chagrin of some of my Kiwi mates who owned small businesses), stamped out all traces of the virus, the country is now back to normal and rugby matches are being played in front of packed 60,000 seat stadiums. Future flareups can be quickly extinguished through testing and contact tracing.
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Post by totallybolted on Jul 11, 2020 17:42:09 GMT -7
All vaccines are just that. 40 to 60% effective. Why else do they need to keep remaking them in different forms? there will be no vaccine this year IMO. I believe in herd immunity. I agree that there won't be a vaccine this year and that rushing a vaccine will result in a much lower effective rate initially, but 40-60% effective? The MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella. Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps (from CDC). As of now, there is no confirmation that anybody who has been infected with COVID-19 and has recovered is immune to future infections (i.e., is immune to COVID-19). Another wrench being thrown into the mix is that the COVID virus is attacking other body organs / functions other than the lungs, and there is no way of telling yet regarding long-term effects on the body after a person has contracted and recovered from the virus. If the US is depending upon herd immunity alone to battle the novel virus, the 2021 season may be in jeopardy as well. Gaining herd immunity from a highly contagious disease will almost certainly require a proven and effective vaccine whenever that is developed. It's sad how this isn't nearly as big of an issue in most places on the planet. New Zealand locked down the country for three months (much to the chagrin of some of my Kiwi mates who owned small businesses), stamped out all traces of the virus, the country is now back to normal and rugby matches are being played in front of packed 60,000 seat stadiums. Future flareups can be quickly extinguished through testing and contact tracing. there is a difference between MMR and H1N1. H1N1 mutates. To your point, we still do not know enough about this virus and herd immunity may be one. However, the odds i would think are in the favor since it is a sars type virus. We also do not know what the chinese have hide from the rest of the world. It could be way worse. we need to smuggle out that woman scientist who is in hiding before the Chinese send her a re-education camp. NZ is a lot less populated than the US, so there is some of that is play. We didn't handle it here with any consistency either. I think all we did was delay the spread and now it is catching up. The good thing is it appears to be less lethal now.
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 11, 2020 20:22:24 GMT -7
All vaccines are just that. 40 to 60% effective. Why else do they need to keep remaking them in different forms? there will be no vaccine this year IMO. I believe in herd immunity. I agree that there won't be a vaccine this year and that rushing a vaccine will result in a much lower effective rate initially, but 40-60% effective? The MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella. Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps (from CDC). As of now, there is no confirmation that anybody who has been infected with COVID-19 and has recovered is immune to future infections (i.e., is immune to COVID-19). Another wrench being thrown into the mix is that the COVID virus is attacking other body organs / functions other than the lungs, and there is no way of telling yet regarding long-term effects on the body after a person has contracted and recovered from the virus. If the US is depending upon herd immunity alone to battle the novel virus, the 2021 season may be in jeopardy as well. Gaining herd immunity from a highly contagious disease will almost certainly require a proven and effective vaccine whenever that is developed. It's sad how this isn't nearly as big of an issue in most places on the planet. New Zealand locked down the country for three months (much to the chagrin of some of my Kiwi mates who owned small businesses), stamped out all traces of the virus, the country is now back to normal and rugby matches are being played in front of packed 60,000 seat stadiums. Future flareups can be quickly extinguished through testing and contact tracing. 40 to 60% is the numbers from the CDC... Notice I didn't quote a lesser number to push a narrative. You know why this is still so big in the US? We have privatized healthcare... Do you think big pharma makes money off of socialized healthcare countries with their vaccines? Nope... COVID is dangerous, I'm not saying it is not... But the American people are being played. There is money in research, manufacturing, and distribution... I bet China gets the vaccine first, and it will be right after the election. Watch...
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 12, 2020 2:52:37 GMT -7
All vaccines are just that. 40 to 60% effective. Why else do they need to keep remaking them in different forms? there will be no vaccine this year IMO. I believe in herd immunity. I agree that there won't be a vaccine this year and that rushing a vaccine will result in a much lower effective rate initially, but 40-60% effective? The MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella. Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps (from CDC). As of now, there is no confirmation that anybody who has been infected with COVID-19 and has recovered is immune to future infections (i.e., is immune to COVID-19). Another wrench being thrown into the mix is that the COVID virus is attacking other body organs / functions other than the lungs, and there is no way of telling yet regarding long-term effects on the body after a person has contracted and recovered from the virus. If the US is depending upon herd immunity alone to battle the novel virus, the 2021 season may be in jeopardy as well. Gaining herd immunity from a highly contagious disease will almost certainly require a proven and effective vaccine whenever that is developed. It's sad how this isn't nearly as big of an issue in most places on the planet. New Zealand locked down the country for three months (much to the chagrin of some of my Kiwi mates who owned small businesses), stamped out all traces of the virus, the country is now back to normal and rugby matches are being played in front of packed 60,000 seat stadiums. Future flareups can be quickly extinguished through testing and contact tracing. I'm not picking sides, but rather I marvel at the different approaches. New Zealand was fascinating. They were like "Oh hell no !!". They locked ALL travel into NZ down. They really did a great job isolating. On the other hand Sweden was like "Nah, you have to just let it run its course." They stayed open, and let their economy continue. Two opposite approaches and really interesting to see.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 12, 2020 2:55:57 GMT -7
I agree that there won't be a vaccine this year and that rushing a vaccine will result in a much lower effective rate initially, but 40-60% effective? The MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella. Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps (from CDC). As of now, there is no confirmation that anybody who has been infected with COVID-19 and has recovered is immune to future infections (i.e., is immune to COVID-19). Another wrench being thrown into the mix is that the COVID virus is attacking other body organs / functions other than the lungs, and there is no way of telling yet regarding long-term effects on the body after a person has contracted and recovered from the virus. If the US is depending upon herd immunity alone to battle the novel virus, the 2021 season may be in jeopardy as well. Gaining herd immunity from a highly contagious disease will almost certainly require a proven and effective vaccine whenever that is developed. It's sad how this isn't nearly as big of an issue in most places on the planet. New Zealand locked down the country for three months (much to the chagrin of some of my Kiwi mates who owned small businesses), stamped out all traces of the virus, the country is now back to normal and rugby matches are being played in front of packed 60,000 seat stadiums. Future flareups can be quickly extinguished through testing and contact tracing. there is a difference between MMR and H1N1. H1N1 mutates. To your point, we still do not know enough about this virus and herd immunity may be one. However, the odds i would think are in the favor since it is a sars type virus. We also do not know what the chinese have hide from the rest of the world. It could be way worse. we need to smuggle out that woman scientist who is in hiding before the Chinese send her a re-education camp. NZ is a lot less populated than the US, so there is some of that is play. We didn't handle it here with any consistency either. I think all we did was delay the spread and now it is catching up. The good thing is it appears to be less lethal now. The Empire prefers to call them "a little summer getaway".................................................................
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 13, 2020 14:06:50 GMT -7
there is a difference between MMR and H1N1. H1N1 mutates. To your point, we still do not know enough about this virus and herd immunity may be one. However, the odds i would think are in the favor since it is a sars type virus. We also do not know what the chinese have hide from the rest of the world. It could be way worse. we need to smuggle out that woman scientist who is in hiding before the Chinese send her a re-education camp. NZ is a lot less populated than the US, so there is some of that is play. We didn't handle it here with any consistency either. I think all we did was delay the spread and now it is catching up. The good thing is it appears to be less lethal now. The Empire prefers to call them "a little summer getaway"................................................................. If the NFL doesn't play, is your 'empire' no longer?
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 14, 2020 9:58:29 GMT -7
The Empire prefers to call them "a little summer getaway"................................................................. If the NFL doesn't play, is your 'empire' no longer? the Empire is Foreva !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 19, 2020 18:46:59 GMT -7
If the NFL doesn't play, is your 'empire' no longer? the Empire is Foreva !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will go on and on over at your blues site...... Do you think the NFL exists in 30 years?
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 20, 2020 1:37:33 GMT -7
the Empire is Foreva !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will go on and on over at your blues site...... Do you think the NFL exists in 30 years? When they are making that kind of money, it will continue. I fear in what form it will continue. So many rule changes in the last 30 years.
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 20, 2020 6:07:35 GMT -7
So I heard on the news today lots of NFL "Stars" are making a stink about feeling safe, so now the season is in question...
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Post by totallybolted on Jul 20, 2020 6:15:21 GMT -7
So I heard on the news today lots of NFL "Stars" are making a stink about feeling safe, so now the season is in question... this is what happens when hype not data runs the information circuit.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 20, 2020 9:39:56 GMT -7
So I heard on the news today lots of NFL "Stars" are making a stink about feeling safe, so now the season is in question... Our sparkly new donkey CB Chris Harris Jr is one of them too......................................
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 20, 2020 13:56:20 GMT -7
So I heard on the news today lots of NFL "Stars" are making a stink about feeling safe, so now the season is in question... Our sparkly new donkey CB Chris Harris Jr is one of them too...................................... Plenty of players voicing concern, enough that daily testing has been agreed upon.
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