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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 21, 2023 6:53:52 GMT -7
As much as I’ve been critical of Staley, I have to agree. Consistency in winning and getting to the playoffs is one of the key indicators you look for in a HC. If everything else is stable (no locker room drama, etc.) then another PO appearance probably means he stays. Esp since Spanos seems happy with just making the playoffs... I think it’s a valuable indicator. But it isn’t the only one. In this past season we saw the Chargers be generally inconsistent and not play well against good teams. They had some luck. Over time that performance reverts to the mean, and if it continues, Staley will be fired. |
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Post by ohioboltfan on Feb 21, 2023 6:56:41 GMT -7
As much as I’ve been critical of Staley, I have to agree. Consistency in winning and getting to the playoffs is one of the key indicators you look for in a HC. If everything else is stable (no locker room drama, etc.) then another PO appearance probably means he stays. Esp since Spanos seems happy with just making the playoffs... Didn't Marty make the playoffs the year he got fired? (RIP)
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 21, 2023 7:04:23 GMT -7
Esp since Spanos seems happy with just making the playoffs... Didn't Marty make the playoffs the year he got fired? (RIP) Yes, and they were idiots for letting him go. |
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 21, 2023 7:17:51 GMT -7
Esp since Spanos seems happy with just making the playoffs... I think it’s a valuable indicator. But it isn’t the only one. In this past season we saw the Chargers be generally inconsistent and not play well against good teams. They had some luck. Over time that performance reverts to the mean, and if it continues, Staley will be fired. Every coach gets hire knowing he will be fired. The Chargers' inconsistency could not have been related to their massive talent loss from injuries, could it?
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 21, 2023 7:22:19 GMT -7
Didn't Marty make the playoffs the year he got fired? (RIP) Yes, and they were idiots for letting him go. Unfortunately they were forced into a choice.....GM or HC. I could see an owner that was put in that corner firing both, which should have been the path taken. I do not see an owner choosing HC over GM.
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 21, 2023 7:47:06 GMT -7
I think it’s a valuable indicator. But it isn’t the only one. In this past season we saw the Chargers be generally inconsistent and not play well against good teams. They had some luck. Over time that performance reverts to the mean, and if it continues, Staley will be fired. Every coach gets hire knowing he will be fired. The Chargers' inconsistency could not have been related to their massive talent loss from injuries, could it? If you want to ignore the massive drop in talent outside of several starting positions, then sure. But in reality no.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 21, 2023 9:39:11 GMT -7
I think it’s a valuable indicator. But it isn’t the only one. In this past season we saw the Chargers be generally inconsistent and not play well against good teams. They had some luck. Over time that performance reverts to the mean, and if it continues, Staley will be fired. Every coach gets hire knowing he will be fired. The Chargers' inconsistency could not have been related to their massive talent loss from injuries, could it? Sure. But it could also have been due in part to the same coaches that made bad decisions and lost when the team was healthy. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Or did you like the O and D in the playoffs? |
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 21, 2023 9:40:59 GMT -7
Yes, and they were idiots for letting him go. Unfortunately they were forced into a choice.....GM or HC. I could see an owner that was put in that corner firing both, which should have been the path taken. I do not see an owner choosing HC over GM. Again, they were idiots. Owners aren’t inherently wise, they’re just inherently rich. |
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 21, 2023 9:41:19 GMT -7
Every coach gets hire knowing he will be fired. The Chargers' inconsistency could not have been related to their massive talent loss from injuries, could it? If you want to ignore the massive drop in talent outside of several starting positions, then sure. But in reality no. The most injured team in the NFL made the playoffs. Overall I think that speaks well for the HC. That stuff aside, I'm looking forward to 2023. A new OC, QB coach, DC, DB coach, ILB coach, QC coach clearly point to a desire to make some changes. I expect one or more playoff wins.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 21, 2023 10:18:04 GMT -7
I think it’s a valuable indicator. But it isn’t the only one. In this past season we saw the Chargers be generally inconsistent and not play well against good teams. They had some luck. Over time that performance reverts to the mean, and if it continues, Staley will be fired. The Chargers' inconsistency could not have been related to their massive talent loss from injuries, could it? The Steelers have only had 3 coaches in the last 64 years ! The 3rd one is still there, and the previous two retired.
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Post by sdc on Feb 21, 2023 11:42:33 GMT -7
Every coach gets hire knowing he will be fired. The Chargers' inconsistency could not have been related to their massive talent loss from injuries, could it? The Steelers have only had 3 coaches in the last 64 years ! The 3rd one is still there, and the previous two retired. The exception proves the rule.
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Post by moekid on Feb 21, 2023 16:53:06 GMT -7
Every coach gets hire knowing he will be fired. The Chargers' inconsistency could not have been related to their massive talent loss from injuries, could it? The Steelers have only had 3 coaches in the last 64 years ! The 3rd one is still there, and the previous two retired. It’s remarkable stability. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 22, 2023 6:13:34 GMT -7
The Steelers have only had 3 coaches in the last 64 years ! The 3rd one is still there, and the previous two retired. It’s remarkable stability. Its insanity. There are local stories of the Rooney's thinking of breaking the streak with Tomlin. He has never had a losing record, and how he got this horrible offense this year to 9-8 I don't know. We'll see if its just the papers making stories or not. The year they won their last Superbowl a lot of people including me said that was Cowher's team. Just a winning record sometimes isn't enough, and they like their champ culture here....................
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 22, 2023 7:23:36 GMT -7
It’s remarkable stability. Its insanity. There are local stories of the Rooney's thinking of breaking the streak with Tomlin. He has never had a losing record, and how he got this horrible offense this year to 9-8 I don't know. We'll see if its just the papers making stories or not. The year they won their last Superbowl a lot of people including me said that was Cowher's team. Just a winning record sometimes isn't enough, and they like their champ culture here.................... They need a QB
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 22, 2023 7:36:41 GMT -7
Every coach gets hire knowing he will be fired. The Chargers' inconsistency could not have been related to their massive talent loss from injuries, could it? Sure. But it could also have been due in part to the same coaches that made bad decisions and lost when the team was healthy. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Or did you like the O and D in the playoffs? Are we talking a single game now, because I thought otherwise..... "Over time that performance reverts to the mean"
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