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Post by lazylightning on Aug 12, 2024 22:28:05 GMT -7
How the hell are the Chargers supposed to evaluate the young WRs with this level of QB play? At practice. Pre-season is purely another tool not the only one. To be fair, Easton, was playing with the red shirts and wanna be depth was he not. I would expect him to look worse. Sure he hasn't impressed, but I think with the rookies etc getting mixed in with the 1's is a better indicator. Easton played a half and went 5-13 for 31 yards. He played behind 4/5 of the starting O-Line for much of the time. Stick managed one first down (by scrambling if memory is correct). Are you suggesting that this was the coaches plan and Roman screwed up the play calling? ...or the WR/RB room lacks talent? IMO, Stick did not deliver. I agree with Freak, it was an opportunity lost.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 13, 2024 5:02:19 GMT -7
How the hell are the Chargers supposed to evaluate the young WRs with this level of QB play?
Pre-season is purely another tool not the only one. To be fair, Easton, was playing with the red shirts and wanna be depth was he not. I would expect him to look worse. Sure he hasn't impressed, but I think with the rookies etc getting mixed in with the 1's is a better indicator. Must be a pretty damn important tool for all 32 teams to bring 90 players each to 3-4 games in August. You can't compare live games competition to shorts and dandelions. Trust me. Trust the league.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 13, 2024 5:05:20 GMT -7
At practice. Pre-season is purely another tool not the only one. To be fair, Easton, was playing with the red shirts and wanna be depth was he not. I would expect him to look worse. Sure he hasn't impressed, but I think with the rookies etc getting mixed in with the 1's is a better indicator. Easton played a half and went 5-13 for 31 yards. He played behind 4/5 of the starting O-Line for much of the time. Stick managed one first down (by scrambling if memory is correct). Are you suggesting that this was the coaches plan and Roman screwed up the play calling? ...or the WR/RB room lacks talent? IMO, Stick did not deliver. I agree with Freak, it was an opportunity lost. You see folks. It's not that hard. To make it easy on you, your agreeing with me isn't expected; it's COMMANDED.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 13, 2024 5:08:58 GMT -7
At practice. Pre-season is purely another tool not the only one. To be fair, Easton, was playing with the red shirts and wanna be depth was he not. I would expect him to look worse. Sure he hasn't impressed, but I think with the rookies etc getting mixed in with the 1's is a better indicator. Easton played a half and went 5-13 for 31 yards. He played behind 4/5 of the starting O-Line for much of the time. Stick managed one first down (by scrambling if memory is correct). Are you suggesting that this was the coaches plan and Roman screwed up the play calling? ...or the WR/RB room lacks talent? IMO, Stick did not deliver. I agree with Freak, it was an opportunity lost. Honestly, I didn't even think he did that "well". I'm not kidding either. He was atrocious out there.
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 13, 2024 7:38:15 GMT -7
Easton played a half and went 5-13 for 31 yards. He played behind 4/5 of the starting O-Line for much of the time. Stick managed one first down (by scrambling if memory is correct). Are you suggesting that this was the coaches plan and Roman screwed up the play calling? ...or the WR/RB room lacks talent? IMO, Stick did not deliver. I agree with Freak, it was an opportunity lost. Honestly, I didn't even think he did that "well". I'm not kidding either. He was atrocious out there. The Chargers are not winning without Herbert at QB, so best to be hoping the injury update is saying cleared to play week one.
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Post by sonorajim on Aug 13, 2024 9:01:51 GMT -7
Honestly, I didn't even think he did that "well". I'm not kidding either. He was atrocious out there. The Chargers are not winning without Herbert at QB, so best to be hoping the injury update is saying cleared to play week one. We probably shouldn't be a playoff team without Herbert but you never know with this Defense and Special Teams.
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Post by lightsout42 on Aug 13, 2024 10:44:41 GMT -7
Honestly, I didn't even think he did that "well". I'm not kidding either. He was atrocious out there. The Chargers are not winning without Herbert at QB, so best to be hoping the injury update is saying cleared to play week one. This is the beginning and end of it. |
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Post by afboltfan on Aug 13, 2024 14:20:44 GMT -7
The Chargers are not winning without Herbert at QB, so best to be hoping the injury update is saying cleared to play week one. We probably shouldn't be a playoff team without Herbert but you never know with this Defense and Special Teams. We're not the 85 Bears or 2001 Ravens... We need an offense.
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 13, 2024 16:17:41 GMT -7
The Chargers are not winning without Herbert at QB, so best to be hoping the injury update is saying cleared to play week one. We probably shouldn't be a playoff team without Herbert but you never know with this Defense and Special Teams. Why do you think this defence is something special? They have done absolutely nothing.... Last season was nothing special..... So why? ST's were good last season, and look to be good again. The only thing special about the ST's is Dicker...... Be bad to lose him......
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 13, 2024 16:20:06 GMT -7
We probably shouldn't be a playoff team without Herbert but you never know with this Defense and Special Teams. We're not the 85 Bears or 2001 Ravens... We need an offense. When all is done.....Chargers will be somewhere between 10-7 and 7-10. Might make PO's, but probably just short.
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Post by sonorajim on Aug 13, 2024 16:39:13 GMT -7
We probably shouldn't be a playoff team without Herbert but you never know with this Defense and Special Teams. ... We need an offense. We're better. O learns to not give the ball away, we win. Of course I expect Herbert to play and blow everyone away but if you want to play "What if?" I'll take playoffs at least.
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Post by afboltfan on Aug 13, 2024 17:36:07 GMT -7
We're not the 85 Bears or 2001 Ravens... We need an offense. We're better. O learns to not give the ball away, we win. Of course I expect Herbert to play and blow everyone away but if you want to play "What if?" I'll take playoffs at least.
Debatable, but I agree with everything else. We don't go from bottom of the barrel defense to number 1 in a season, I don't care who your coach is. Especially since we did little to improve that side of the ball... For us to have any sort of success or to even sniff the playoffs we need pre Staley Herbert. A top 10 rush offense would be icing on the cake, I think Roman needs to show something in year 1.
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Post by totallybolted on Aug 13, 2024 19:41:52 GMT -7
We're better. O learns to not give the ball away, we win. Of course I expect Herbert to play and blow everyone away but if you want to play "What if?" I'll take playoffs at least.
Debatable, but I agree with everything else. We don't go from bottom of the barrel defense to number 1 in a season, I don't care who your coach is. Especially since we did little to improve that side of the ball... F or us to have any sort of success or to even sniff the playoffs we need pre Staley Herbert. A top 10 rush offense would be icing on the cake, I think Roman needs to show something in year 1. This will make the D better. A run game of even 50% better than last year will make the D better. Less time on the field, puts teams into generally one dimension. These help.
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Post by sonorajim on Aug 13, 2024 21:36:02 GMT -7
Debatable, but I agree with everything else. We don't go from bottom of the barrel defense to number 1 in a season, I don't care who your coach is. Especially since we did little to improve that side of the ball... F or us to have any sort of success or to even sniff the playoffs we need pre Staley Herbert. A top 10 rush offense would be icing on the cake, I think Roman needs to show something in year 1. This will make the D better. A run game of even 50% better than last year will make the D better. Less time on the field, puts teams into generally one dimension. These help. Agreed. Some ball control O, give the D a break. Let them recover and talk.
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Post by sonorajim on Aug 13, 2024 21:59:36 GMT -7
We're better. O learns to not give the ball away, we win. Of course I expect Herbert to play and blow everyone away but if you want to play "What if?" I'll take playoffs at least.
Debatable, but I agree with everything else. We don't go from bottom of the barrel defense to number 1 in a season, I don't care who your coach is. Especially since we did little to improve that side of the ball... For us to have any sort of success or to even sniff the playoffs we need pre Staley Herbert. A top 10 rush offense would be icing on the cake, I think Roman needs to show something in year 1. Bottom of the barrel to the top takes more than a coach. Granted. 1st ,We weren't bottom of the barrel in personnel. 2nd, we added some quality players and depth. 3rd Ben Herbert. The players feel stronger, faster, more durable. 4th Minter and his position coaches are all head and shoulders better than DC Staley & staff.
Having the best Edge rush group in the NFL (Bosa, Mack, Tuli, Dupree +1) is both real, it's BIG and Minter has some great ideas on how to leverage that. The LBs and DBs are feasting thus far in practice and vs Seattle. Special Teams is threatening to be NFL best.
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