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Post by amped on Jan 10, 2022 10:04:34 GMT -7
Lost 3 of our last 4. Rex is right. Did III coach. Failed big time in the big moments. KC, Texans and Raiders. Just needed 1 of those games. There is no arguing that. Absolute truth. This is true and we can Hope Staley is the type of coach that can review his mistakes without personal bias. Be accountable and make the changes required in the future.
After review and seeing all the folks talking about how the raiders were going to go for the tie. I don't buy it. the only way they go for the tie is if they miss a 60 yarder at the end of OT.
Our Defense needed a stop at the end and Staley took that time out to try to get the best defense out there. It didn't work out. Criticize the 4th down calls and personal decisions all you want and with good reason. But let the time out thing go.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 10, 2022 10:28:56 GMT -7
There is no arguing that. Absolute truth. This is true and we can Hope Staley is the type of coach that can review his mistakes without personal bias. Be accountable and make the changes required in the future.
After review and seeing all the folks talking about how the raiders were going to go for the tie. I don't buy it. the only way they go for the tie is if they miss a 60 yarder at the end of OT.
Our Defense needed a stop at the end and Staley took that time out to try to get the best defense out there. It didn't work out. Criticize the 4th down calls and personal decisions all you want and with good reason. But let the time out thing go.
/agreed I don't blame him for the timeout at all.
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Post by lazylightning on Jan 10, 2022 10:36:10 GMT -7
There is no arguing that. Absolute truth. This is true and we can Hope Staley is the type of coach that can review his mistakes without personal bias. Be accountable and make the changes required in the future.
After review and seeing all the folks talking about how the raiders were going to go for the tie. I don't buy it. the only way they go for the tie is if they miss a 60 yarder at the end of OT.
Our Defense needed a stop at the end and Staley took that time out to try to get the best defense out there. It didn't work out. Criticize the 4th down calls and personal decisions all you want and with good reason. But let the time out thing go.
I don't buy it either. But I think they would have punted instead of trying a 60 yard FG with a minute on the clock.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 10, 2022 10:38:02 GMT -7
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 10, 2022 10:41:02 GMT -7
Rex Ryan and company tell it like it is: Awesome video... Spot on. Apparently there are people on this very board that disagree and think Staley is not at fault? C'mon... The little hat jab was hilarious...
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 10, 2022 10:42:04 GMT -7
There is no arguing that. Absolute truth. This is true and we can Hope Staley is the type of coach that can review his mistakes without personal bias. Be accountable and make the changes required in the future.
After review and seeing all the folks talking about how the raiders were going to go for the tie. I don't buy it. the only way they go for the tie is if they miss a 60 yarder at the end of OT.
Our Defense needed a stop at the end and Staley took that time out to try to get the best defense out there. It didn't work out. Criticize the 4th down calls and personal decisions all you want and with good reason. But let the time out thing go.
The only nagging thing in my genius genius mind that bugs me to no end: Before the timeout. It was 3rd and 4 with 38 seconds left. You were going to go for the tie IN THE SHOTGUN ?!?!?!?! That doesn't add up to me. So it doesn't add up for anyone.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 10, 2022 10:49:20 GMT -7
This is true and we can Hope Staley is the type of coach that can review his mistakes without personal bias. Be accountable and make the changes required in the future.
After review and seeing all the folks talking about how the raiders were going to go for the tie. I don't buy it. the only way they go for the tie is if they miss a 60 yarder at the end of OT.
Our Defense needed a stop at the end and Staley took that time out to try to get the best defense out there. It didn't work out. Criticize the 4th down calls and personal decisions all you want and with good reason. But let the time out thing go.
The only nagging thing in my genius genius mind that bugs me to no end: Before the timeout. It was 3rd and 4 with 38 seconds left. You were going to go for the tie IN THE SHOTGUN ?!?!?!?! That doesn't add up to me. So it doesn't add up for anyone. Perhaps they were going to throw it away? Carr was doing that all game... I think we had a 50/50 chance of them going for the tie and Staley made the call. I won't say it was the right call or the wrong call. Me personally, I would have not taken the time out and hoped the squad on the field would make any potential play.
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Post by sdc on Jan 10, 2022 11:07:20 GMT -7
I've been a huge Staley fan since day one. The thing that really got to me was the expression on Herbert's face when he went to the sideline when we failed on the fourth down on our own 18 yad line. It will only be so long until Staley loses Herbert over these "hero" calls. I was telling my wife this morning that I predict next season that Herbert goes rogue when dumbass calls come in from the sideline. He knew it was moronic to go for it and even more stupid to run Austin right up the gut when they had 10 in the box. Run and RPO on the edge and let your franchise make the play. Of course, punting was the call to begin with. Staley's defensive alignment (4 in the box) on the 3rd and 23 three was just as stupid. That play damn near broke our backs. Staley is aggressive while not having a killer instinct. I don't know if I have ever seen that before.
I'm not ready to give up on the guy, but Staley's got to look in the mirror. He single-handedly submarined one of the guttiest QB performances on all time last night. Herbert is a nice guy but will eventually tire of "stupid" from his own coach being his biggest hurdle.
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 10, 2022 11:08:43 GMT -7
I know, I'm just sayin... You know because I spanked your Pee Pee. I get the knocks on Staley, and I can feel those opinions. I understand. It is just too new to be fired. I hope he learned a great deal this season. How the hell can you forget the firing of a 14-2 coach. This is the Chargers. A Spanos led Chargers.
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 10, 2022 11:14:27 GMT -7
I've been a huge Staley fan since day one. The thing that really got to me was the expression on Herbert's face when he went to the sideline when we failed on the fourth down on our own 18 yad line. It will only be so long until Staley loses Herbert over these "hero" calls. I was telling my wife this morning that I predict next season that Herbert goes rogue when dumbass calls come in from the sideline. He knew it was moronic to go for it and even more stupid to run Austin right up the gut when they had 10 in the box. Run and RPO on the edge and let your franchise make the play. Of course, punting was the call to begin with. Staley's defensive alignment (4 in the box) on the 3rd and 23 three was just as stupid. That play damn near broke our backs. Staley is aggressive while not having a killer instinct. I don't know if I have ever seen that before. I'm not ready to give up on the guy, but Staley's got to look in the mirror. He single-handedly submarined one of the guttiest QB performances on all time last night. Herbert is a nice guy but will eventually tire of "stupid" from his own coach being his biggest hurdle. That should come from maturity. I'm a little surprised he didn't audible. That game last night seriously boosted my feelings about Herbert. I think he is looking to be the better than any QB the bolts have ever had.
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Post by sdc on Jan 10, 2022 11:16:28 GMT -7
You know because I spanked your Pee Pee. I get the knocks on Staley, and I can feel those opinions. I understand. It is just too new to be fired. I hope he learned a great deal this season. How the hell can you forget the firing of a 14-2 coach. This is the Chargers. A Spanos led Chargers. That was different. A GM and a HC at open war with each other had to have created a toxic environment. AJ and Marty's ego and refusal to work together forced Dean's hand. Hindsight might tell you that the wrong guy got canned but I doubt that Marty would have brought us to the promised land so that makes it a moot point.
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Post by jefa on Jan 10, 2022 11:24:45 GMT -7
Rex Ryan and company tell it like it is: This is brutal but truthful.
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Post by moekid on Jan 10, 2022 11:25:33 GMT -7
I've been a huge Staley fan since day one. The thing that really got to me was the expression on Herbert's face when he went to the sideline when we failed on the fourth down on our own 18 yad line. It will only be so long until Staley loses Herbert over these "hero" calls. I was telling my wife this morning that I predict next season that Herbert goes rogue when dumbass calls come in from the sideline. He knew it was moronic to go for it and even more stupid to run Austin right up the gut when they had 10 in the box. Run and RPO on the edge and let your franchise make the play. Of course, punting was the call to begin with. Staley's defensive alignment (4 in the box) on the 3rd and 23 three was just as stupid. That play damn near broke our backs. Staley is aggressive while not having a killer instinct. I don't know if I have ever seen that before. I'm not ready to give up on the guy, but Staley's got to look in the mirror. He single-handedly submarined one of the guttiest QB performances on all time last night. Herbert is a nice guy but will eventually tire of "stupid" from his own coach being his biggest hurdle. That should come from maturity. I'm a little surprised he didn't audible. That game last night seriously boosted my feelings about Herbert. I think he is looking to be the better than any QB the bolts have ever had. That was a potentially legendary comeback he engineered. If they win, it feeds into a narrative we’re dying to have. Instead, it feeds the other more familiar narrative that the Chargers will always find a way to lose. They beat themselves last night. The refs had a hand but far too many mistakes in the 17th game of the season |
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Post by sdc on Jan 10, 2022 11:29:22 GMT -7
I've been a huge Staley fan since day one. The thing that really got to me was the expression on Herbert's face when he went to the sideline when we failed on the fourth down on our own 18 yad line. It will only be so long until Staley loses Herbert over these "hero" calls. I was telling my wife this morning that I predict next season that Herbert goes rogue when dumbass calls come in from the sideline. He knew it was moronic to go for it and even more stupid to run Austin right up the gut when they had 10 in the box. Run and RPO on the edge and let your franchise make the play. Of course, punting was the call to begin with. Staley's defensive alignment (4 in the box) on the 3rd and 23 three was just as stupid. That play damn near broke our backs. Staley is aggressive while not having a killer instinct. I don't know if I have ever seen that before. I'm not ready to give up on the guy, but Staley's got to look in the mirror. He single-handedly submarined one of the guttiest QB performances on all time last night. Herbert is a nice guy but will eventually tire of "stupid" from his own coach being his biggest hurdle. That should come from maturity. I'm a little surprised he didn't audible. That game last night seriously boosted my feelings about Herbert. I think he is looking to be the better than any QB the bolts have ever had. I agree. I saw grit and determination in the kid last night. He put that team on his back, took a beating, and kept delivering. I think one thing is for sure now. Herbert is the alpha in the locker room at this point not Staley.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 10, 2022 11:55:33 GMT -7
You know because I spanked your Pee Pee. I get the knocks on Staley, and I can feel those opinions. I understand. It is just too new to be fired. I hope he learned a great deal this season. How the hell can you forget the firing of a 14-2 coach. This is the Chargers. A Spanos led Chargers. I said it was too new. Was Marty new ? No. Marty old. Staley Stays.
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